MKAI Inclusive AI Forum July 2021: Could Artificial Intelligence be different to other technology waves?
Speaker 1: Johan Steyn
Title: Chair, Special Interest Group – Artificial Intelligence & Robotics and PwC
Johan Steyn is an Artificial Intelligence enthusiast and speaks globally at conferences on the Fourth Industrial Revolution and Emerging Technologies. 2019 award winner Best AI & Robotics Management Consultant by Wealth & Finance magazine.
He is a published author who regularly contributes articles on thought-leadership to well-known publications such as Business Day, the Sunday Times, and ITWeb.
He is the Chair of the Special Interest Group on Artificial Intelligence and Robotics with the IITPSA (Institute of Information Technology Professionals of South Africa).
He works for PwC South Africa as Lead Architect: Automation.
Speaker 2: Virginie MARTINS de NOBREGA
Title: AI Specialist at Creative Resolution
“There is no neutral technology without a clear intention to do good and serve the common good” – Virginie MARTINS de NOBREGA
Virginie MARTINS de NOBREGA is an attorney at law, accredited mediator acting also as an international consultant and expert for international organizations and actors focusing on the sustainable development goals (SDGs) and ESG strategies. She founded CREATIVE RESOLUTION as a niche firm in 2012 to provide strategy, law and policy consultations, as well as representation.
She conducted research (2018) on Artificial Intelligence and frontier technologies covering the international AI ecosystem, its ethical and human rights challenges in line with a human-centered management of the innovation cycle. Her case study was about how Artificial Intelligence and frontier technologies can improve the speed, impact and efficiency of the United Nations. For the last 4 years, she has been advocating for an open, diverse and multicultural AI with strong international ethical and international law benchmarks promoting human rights, fundamental freedoms, sustainability and profitability.
She holds an executive master in management of international organizations (SDA Bocconi School of Management, Italy) and two masters in international and EU law (University Paris Ouest Nanterre, France) completed by conflict and peace studies.
She is based in Brussels and Paris. She works globally.
Speaker 3: Haroldo Sato
Title: Keynote Speaker, VR AR Association
Haroldo Sato is a Keynote Speaker at VR/AR Global Summit 2020: How Digitalization, Environmental Sustainability, and Inequality reduction can be improved by Immersive Technologies.
He is also a member of the VR for Good Global Committee and Advisory Member at ConsulPaz CGP Associates, as well as at Millebot, Inc.
Panellist: Kathleen Walch
Title: Managing Partner & Principal Analyst at Cognilytica
Kathleen Walch is a serial entrepreneur, savvy marketer, AI and Machine Learning expert, and tech industry connector. She is a principal analyst, managing partner, and founder of Cognilytica, an AI focused research, advisory, and education firm. She is also co-host of the popular AI Today podcast and regularly interviews thought leaders in the AI and ML space. She is also a contributing writer to both Forbes and TechTarget where she writes about AI, ML, big data, and data science.
Panel Discussion with:
– Kathleen Walch
– Johan Steyn
– Virginie MARTINS de NOBREGA
– Haroldo Sato
Moderated by: Jaisal Surana
Hosted by: Richard Foster-Fletcher
Chat Transcript:
16:58:11 From delphine_nyaboke : Paul, what is the type of wine you’re drinking, I try get hold of a similar one?
16:59:02 From Paul Levy : well @Delphine, the truth is I haven’t drunk alcohol for over 30 years
16:59:21 From Paul Levy : EXCEPT for maybe three times a year
16:59:34 From delphine_nyaboke : @Paul, I see
16:59:36 From Paul Levy : recommended: Damski Rosé
16:59:49 From Odilia Coi : Nice to see you all!
16:59:55 From Markus Krebsz : Hi everyone,
Let’s get this party started.
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Enjoy today’s session and great meeting all of you!!!
17:01:48 From Markus Krebsz : Jaisal is a really GOOD bad cop!
17:03:30 From Liam McDermott : Hello All! Would love to connect https://www.linkedin.com/in/liamalanmcdermott/
17:03:38 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : https://www.reply.com/data-reply/en/
17:03:53 From Paul Levy : My dad was London Taxi Driver for over 30 years. He loved his job. He was so committed to it that, when he picked us up from school, he always took us the longest way home.
17:05:14 From Tathagat Varma : First time here. Based out of Bangalore. Welcome to connect at https://in.linkedin.com/in/tathagat
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17:05:30 From Ana Montes : Hi good morning everyone
17:05:49 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6824005821882540032
17:06:11 From Odilia Coi : Thank you so much @Linda!
17:06:42 From Murali Sathya : Hi All
17:07:05 From Murali Sathya : This is Murali Sathya joining from Bangalore, India
17:07:09 From Murali Sathya : https://www.linkedin.com/in/muralisathya/
17:07:15 From Paritosh Gupta : Hi folks. I am Abhishek from Bangalore. I run a Startup called CopyCat based out of Philadelphia. Copycat helps you generate production ready code directly from Sigma designs with a click of a button. Connect with me here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/reachkg/
17:07:28 From esklavounou : Hi all
17:07:33 From KaT . : Hello everybody, warm regards from Berlin
17:07:55 From Aleksandra Hadzic : Hello everyone! Looking forward to learning together about this amazing topic!
17:08:03 From esklavounou : I am Elsa Sklavounou https://www.linkedin.com/in/elsa-sklavounou-b92b971/
17:08:07 From Dino Bose : Hello All from Prague
17:08:39 From George Tilesch : Hi all from Silicon Valley!
17:08:46 From Paul Levy : Delighted to continue the technosophic conversations… https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-levy-1b35853
17:08:57 From Vibhav Mithal : Hello everyone !! Greetings from India! Looking forward to the talks today!
17:08:59 From Chetan Shah : Hello All! Chetan Shah here. From Pune, India. Work in many major emerging technologies. A technology buff so to say….primarily AI
17:09:08 From Lavina Ramkissoon 🙂 : hellos Johan 🙂
17:09:10 From Arnab Rajkhowa : Hi,
17:09:29 From Sean Culey : Good luck Johan!
17:09:36 From Chetan Shah : you can find me here on LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/in/cshah
17:09:47 From Francois Seegers : You go Johan, makes us proud 😉
17:09:59 From Gerry Copitch : Happy to connect https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerrycopitch/
17:10:30 From Arnab Rajkhowa : This is Arnab. A newbie in AI, first time here. Looking forward to connect.. https://www.linkedin.com/in/arajkhowa
17:10:38 From David Wood : The subject matter of AI is changing so fast, that we all need to be able to learn from what each other have seen and discovered. Collaboration is the key to thriving in our present turbulent time!
17:11:39 From Vibhav Mithal : What we will leave behind for the future generations. What a fantastic way to start the talk – Johan about how AI is different. If it is.
17:11:47 From Hanno Eigenbrod : better future
17:11:50 From Paul Levy : interesting David; I experience AI as being a disappointingly slowly chsnging field, largely recycling ideas imagined decades ago
17:11:51 From Enzo Ferrari : Hi everyone!
17:11:53 From Enzo Ferrari : https://www.linkedin.com/in/enzo-ferrari/
17:11:57 From Hanno Eigenbrod : if ai adopts mindfulness
17:12:06 From jayanta : Hi Everyone, Jayanta here. Telco commercial marketer , Excited about the ongoing and upcoming AI in telco . Would love to connect and learn together.
17:12:08 From jayanta : https://www.linkedin.com/in/jayantadutta1/
17:12:09 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : Can someone stop taking the recording please 🙂
17:12:19 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : I will record and share shortly
17:12:21 From renatosantanna@gmail.com : Hi everyone!
17:13:16 From Oudarjya Sen Sarma : Hi everyone! I’m Oudarjya from India
would be glad to continue the conversation here :-
https://www.linkedin.com/in/oudarjya-sen-sarma-26459416a/
17:13:30 From Hanno Eigenbrod : there is no flower without the mud
17:13:39 From Hanno Eigenbrod : yet too there is no mud without the flower
17:14:19 From Chinmoy Baruah : Hello
Everyone
I am Chinmoy Baruah. I am a Graduate STEM researcher in the field of Chemistry.
17:14:21 From Henry Kafeman to Richard Foster-Fletcher(Direct Message) : I seem to have the recording tools which I have not seen before, but I do not think I have clicked on anything! It says “Recording” at the top still.
17:14:44 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Henry Kafeman(Direct Message) : Yes, someone with the co-host keeps taking it off me 🙂
17:14:53 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Henry Kafeman(Direct Message) : I made you a co-host this time
17:14:56 From Chinmoy Baruah : This is my Linkedin in Id – https://www.linkedin.com/in/chinmoy-baruah-49b041165/
17:15:08 From Johan Steyn : Transition Point: From Steam to the Singularity (Sean Culey)
17:17:52 From David Wood : Thanks for the pointer to Sean’s book. It looks really interesting! I’ve added it to the set of books I hope to listen to on Audible over the next few weeks
17:19:40 From renatosantanna@gmail.com : I think the implant use for Medical applications is OK, not for human augmentation.
17:19:40 From delphine_nyaboke : Hello, it would be lovely to connect: https://www.linkedin.com/in/delphine-nyaboke/.
17:20:15 From Vibhav Mithal : “We all can make a difference” – Johan Steyn. Truly reflects what a multi disciplinary perspective to AI must be. Each view is important!
17:20:44 From Hanno Eigenbrod : i’d go further, everyone has the capcity to be the change
17:21:12 From Sean Culey : It would be a privilege to have you read it David – you have been an influence on both my research and writing.
17:21:53 From Vibhav Mithal : I agree @Hanno! You are right. Becomes even more important – in the context of AI.
17:21:59 From Lavina Ramkissoon 🙂 : lol yes we currently in load shedding while Johan speaks
17:23:01 From Markus Krebsz : Very wise words and I also fear that everday tech (requirements) will increase the social divide globally
17:23:46 From Markus Krebsz : “Begin with the End in Mind” – what end state do we all collectively want to have for us and our children?
17:24:15 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : Connect with your fellow community here https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6824005821882540032
17:24:42 From Paul Levy : As some of you know, I do not believe these technologies are (,yet) AI. AI in the possible dystopian world lies further ahead. in the near future we are referring to complex tech used for negative purposes.
17:24:56 From Anu Toor : Completely agree with Johan’s compassionate point of view of making an impact on community.
17:25:05 From Theo Mathema : Great talk. thanks so much.
17:25:17 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : Great talk Johan
17:25:31 From Paul Levy : Thanks, Johan.
17:25:31 From Aleksandra Hadzic : Outstanding talk, Johan! Thank you
17:25:43 From Markus Krebsz : Thank you, Johan, very good talk
17:25:48 From delphine_nyaboke : wow. the part of the letter from our children teared me up
17:25:52 From Markus Krebsz : Agree with @Paul’s view re “Ai”
17:25:59 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : We can field 2 questions for Johan
17:26:11 From Chinmoy Baruah : Nice talk, Johan
17:26:12 From delphine_nyaboke : such an incredible talk Johan
17:26:12 From Odilia Coi : Excellent talk Johan, many thanks!
17:26:15 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : What questions come to mind?
17:26:19 From KaT . : Dear @Johan Steyn thank you so much for your wise words !!
17:26:28 From Anu Toor : Thank you Johan for an inspiring talk.
17:26:31 From Markus Krebsz : Q) What do we need to do right now?
17:26:38 From Adina Tarry : How is AI different from othehr techs
17:26:58 From Markus Krebsz : A) Leave
17:27:00 From Alex Monaghan Eckoh : Who really holds the power here? That is the big question! Who can make the decisions?
17:27:01 From Murali Sathya : Excellent talk Johan
17:27:01 From Markus Krebsz : 😉
17:27:13 From David Wood : Q: How precisely do you think the timescales described by Kondratieff can be anticipated in advance for new waves of tech disruption?
17:27:21 From Paul Levy : Run away!!!!!!
17:27:22 From Hanno Eigenbrod : Can we teach AI in loving kindness?
17:27:33 From Alex Monaghan Eckoh : Mars looks nice …
17:28:03 From Johan Steyn : Sorry my internet dropped but I am back
17:28:20 From Ana Montes : We can’t separate the light and shadow of our human condition, how can we make sure we are considering both as we develop technology?
17:29:06 From Gerry Copitch : Running slowly
17:29:16 From Markus Krebsz : very
17:29:17 From Frank Rohde : glitching
17:29:17 From delphine_nyaboke : my video is lagging, is it just me?
17:29:31 From Markus Krebsz : no here too
17:29:31 From Kishen Seyjagat : Hey Richard you need to check the box to optimize the video for transmission.
17:29:32 From Gerry Copitch to Richard Foster-Fletcher(Direct Message) : Video running slowly
17:29:33 From Chetan Shah : even mine…better now
17:29:38 From Sean Culey : No – lagging for everyone I think.
17:29:38 From Virginie Martins de Nobrega : Me as well.
17:29:43 From jayanta : Both vid and voice
17:29:45 From Haroldo Sato : Lagging
17:29:52 From Pinal Patel : same here!!
17:29:53 From Divya Dwivedi : Video is lagging for me too
17:29:58 From Gerry Copitch to Richard Foster-Fletcher(Direct Message) : Better now
17:30:00 From KaT . : I will be happy to stay connected: http://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-kat-zarychta
17:30:27 From Gerry Copitch to Richard Foster-Fletcher(Direct Message) : Buffering
17:31:06 From Paul Levy : that was a very impressive lag!
17:31:23 From Ana Montes : Thanks for your well thought out comments.
17:31:23 From KaT . :
17:31:41 From Alex Monaghan Eckoh : Zoom is trying to make up for it now
17:31:54 From Markus Krebsz : yes, this is slightly odd
17:32:25 From Markus Krebsz : Shows Richard isn’t “live”, he’s in a parallel Zoomniverse
17:33:03 From Gerry Copitch to Richard Foster-Fletcher(Direct Message) : Lip sync was off whilst you were speaking just now
17:33:06 From Kishen Seyjagat : Great presentations so far! would love to connect guys! Do stay safe https://www.linkedin.com/in/kishen-seyjagat-854961211/
17:33:09 From Chetan Shah : coming thru
17:33:16 From Chetan Shah : can see
17:33:20 From Vibhav Mithal : Can be seen
17:34:08 From Alex Monaghan Eckoh : I think there is little doubt that AI can go bad, and that it can go worse than previous tech revolutions. The interesting point is whether this can be steered away from the disasters associated with all the other waves – because every wave has gone bad in its own way!
17:34:08 From jayanta : no
17:34:09 From Chetan Shah : stopped
17:34:12 From Enzo Ferrari : no
17:35:54 From Francois Seegers : AI Security, socially and emotional security comes to mind specific to protection
17:36:38 From Liam McDermott : The ideologies are created by people who don’t code…it is just a technology.
17:36:51 From Kishen Seyjagat : I agree with Liam
17:37:35 From Paul Levy : AI will soon have little or nothing to do with code.
17:37:39 From Hanno Eigenbrod : can u build a house without shifting a stone? yes if u r the architect
17:38:06 From Vibhav Mithal : Connect with everyone that is here – through this post – https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6824005821882540032/
17:38:08 From Paul Levy : Or if you have a 3D printer!
17:38:17 From Liam McDermott : Paul Levy You know something I don’t know?
17:38:19 From Hanno Eigenbrod : why does no one ever mention Konrad Zuse?
17:38:52 From Vibhav Mithal : It could be a technology but the people training that technology are human. So can it become an ideology?
17:39:19 From Hanno Eigenbrod : but cab it become human?
17:39:25 From Liam McDermott : Ideologies are being injected into AI through code
17:39:28 From Paul Levy : Liam, the roots lie in music and biology
17:39:29 From Odilia Coi : Love this historical perspective, brilliant Virginie!
17:39:36 From Vibhav Mithal : Great great question @Hanno!
17:39:48 From Kishen Seyjagat : To become human it would have to learn upon itself without requiring prior data
17:39:52 From Alexandra : Why will there soon be no code?
17:40:13 From Liam McDermott : Paul Levy You a coder?
17:40:21 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : Sorry for the lag folks – the video is available to watch here https://youtu.be/xviNtwInoQQ
17:40:23 From Tathagat Varma : The biggest question soon won’t be what does it mean to be AI…but what does it even mean to be a human?
17:40:32 From Paul Levy : @alexandra – AI will be brought into being via biology
17:40:53 From Vibhav Mithal : What an excellent talk ! Historical perspective to help us understand where we are today
17:40:59 From Alexandra : via genetics?
17:41:01 From Kishen Seyjagat : @Varma agree
17:41:02 From Hanno Eigenbrod : being human is the light inbetween the atoms
17:41:05 From Odilia Coi : Thank you @Richard!
17:41:21 From Vibhav Mithal : Good point @Tathagat – To know AI, would also imply understanding what is it being human
17:41:30 From renatosantanna@gmail.com : I think that this is an issue that may not arise due the ethical implications
17:41:45 From Paul Levy : Genetics may come into play … yikes …. eek.
17:42:03 From Alex Monaghan Eckoh : AI ideology goes back a lot further than 1950 – to Mary Shelley and HG Wells and others, the Mechanical Turk, and even supernatural ideas such as golems – these all discussed artificial autonomous entities.
17:42:05 From Hanno Eigenbrod : Genau
17:42:16 From Francois Seegers : nano replacing AI
17:42:26 From Paul Levy : Code is ultimately a beautiful dead end for AI
17:42:28 From Chetan Shah : AI is getting smarter by the second…faster than anything before now…
17:42:35 From Kishen Seyjagat : @Alex that is true!
17:42:41 From Hanno Eigenbrod : faster thsn light?
17:42:57 From Paul Levy : A bit like beer being a route to ultimate happiness
17:43:04 From Vibhav Mithal : This is one of the best explanations of AI Challenges I have read. So succinct and so diverse. What a fantastic talk!
17:43:13 From Hanno Eigenbrod : its the bubbles
17:43:38 From Hanno Eigenbrod : its not the form often that defines what one desires
17:43:47 From Hanno Eigenbrod : how do u define a room?
17:44:04 From Paul Levy : Powerful points, Virginie.
17:44:07 From Hanno Eigenbrod : by the walls? by the limitations?
17:44:45 From Hanno Eigenbrod : emotions are temporary
17:44:49 From Paul Levy : I define a room by the stories it becomes a part of
17:44:50 From Hanno Eigenbrod : they are not whatr makes us
17:44:54 From Hanno Eigenbrod : they are limitations
17:45:18 From Kishen Seyjagat : Does the scanning of emotions determine your dexterity?
17:45:21 From Hanno Eigenbrod : @paul good point, like a mac inside ?
17:45:44 From Hanno Eigenbrod : its so quick that an emotion passes
17:45:55 From Markus Krebsz : Isn’t the output of the emotional analysis somewhat biased already by how granular (or not) the wheel is defined?
17:45:57 From Paul Levy : emotions are “nouns”, feeling is a process; a process is a moving element in an evolving context
17:45:58 From Liam McDermott : All the AI “ideologies” are actually data privacy/protection issues. The AI itself just reflects statistical realities of the data.
17:46:06 From jayanta : Any new thing, be it solution/ technology / anything will come with initial doubts, hiccups – but those shouldn’t be bottlenecks, rather we should try to find a solution. Any machine won’t do anything unless it’s told to do so. I do believe everyone can learn – show me 1 person who used feature phone back in 2005, can not use today’s smartphone.
17:46:26 From Markus Krebsz : Emotion = E(nergy) in motion
17:46:49 From Hanno Eigenbrod : emotions are temporary , energy isnt
17:46:50 From Kishen Seyjagat : @Jayanta true. But how do we teach people where access to technology is limited?
17:46:51 From Vibhav Mithal : Brilliant brilliant – follow the purple colour – and you may get the answer to technology v ideology.
17:46:52 From Alexandra : So artificial may become natural..
17:47:08 From Hanno Eigenbrod : maybe it is natural?
17:47:26 From Markus Krebsz : Energy (states) are also temporary and depend on the observer (i.e. linear vs. wave states)
17:47:37 From Matthew Bailey : Hello everyone
17:47:40 From Hanno Eigenbrod : good point
17:48:07 From David Wood : On history: Benefits of AI (automation) were discussed by the philosopher Aristotle https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/aristotle-on-household-robots
17:48:08 From Paul Levy : Artificial refers to the level of removedness and processing from an original state
17:48:15 From Markus Krebsz : And so we move into quantum mechanics 😉
17:48:25 From Oyewole Simon Oginni : If we talk about children, what about the old? The AI robotics as an emotional machine in place of compassion and lovingkindness that the old/aged population needs? How can the AI development/evolution be responsive to social justice?
17:48:50 From Markus Krebsz : @Paul “Original” state = natural state or is this something different?
17:48:50 From Dino Bose : and how is AI connected to Quantum computing? is it? a lot of this is very new to me
17:48:52 From Matthew Bailey : Big fan of Aristotle. His wisdom assists us in inventing ethical AI centric futures that honour our cultures and humanity etc…
17:48:53 From Vibhav Mithal : Coming out well the video.
17:48:56 From Chetan Shah : yes
17:49:02 From Kishen Seyjagat : Yep video is playing well
17:49:30 From Vibhav Mithal : Its like we are in a movie theatre!
17:49:48 From jayanta : @Oyewole, AI can help caregivers . Actually in customer care segment, it’s being worked on
17:49:48 From Paul Levy : An original state is both temporal and snapshot – both work in a “natural earth” context
17:49:51 From Jaisal Surana : agree Vibhav indeed
17:50:08 From Henry Kafeman : Powerful video!
17:50:17 From Gerry Copitch : Have I died? 🙂
17:50:23 From Sachin Bhoi : wow, the whole human kind reflected in front of me
17:50:30 From Vibhav Mithal : AMAZING!!
17:50:35 From Liam McDermott : CNN acid flashback!
17:50:42 From Chetan Shah : transcending all time we kow
17:50:42 From David Wood : @Dino – Quantum computing might significantly speed up some existing AI algorithms. It may also enable new sorts of AI algorithms that aren’t currently viable at all, using today’s classical computers
17:50:55 From Markus Krebsz : Been watching “Person of Interest” as of late – well worth watching
17:50:56 From KaT . : Wow
17:50:58 From Hanno Eigenbrod : wowowowowow
17:50:59 From Dino Bose : Thanks @davidwood
17:51:10 From Aleksandra Hadzic : Out of this world experience!!
17:51:12 From Martin Valdivia : Thanks for sharing!
17:51:19 From jayanta : wow. amazing vid.
17:51:22 From Theo Mathema : Thanks for sharing
17:51:24 From KaT . : Thank you for sharing Virginie !! Mille merci
17:51:28 From Matthew Bailey : She gets it…
17:51:32 From Markus Krebsz : CONTEXTUAL SETTING + COLLECTIVE HISTORY
17:51:33 From Anu Toor : What a compilation!!
17:51:35 From Markus Krebsz : Yes
17:51:47 From Odilia Coi : impressive video!
17:51:50 From Henry Kafeman : Can you share a link to that video?
17:52:28 From KaT . : I would be grateful for the link to this video as well
17:52:41 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : https://youtu.be/MrqqD_Tsy4Q
17:52:47 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : Here you go
17:52:56 From Paul Levy : in social science research many shown these images express “disappointment” with how lacking in imagination the dystopian view is – clichéd, repetitive and sadly a bit lo-fi male
17:53:00 From KaT . : Thank you Richard
17:53:01 From Johan Steyn : Amazing talk and video, well done!
17:53:34 From Aleksandra Hadzic : Wonderful talk Virginie, thanks Richard for the link
17:53:39 From Martin Valdivia : Thank you, I hope to see you again soon.
17:54:00 From Markus Krebsz : Thank you, Virginie for an inspiring talk!
17:54:05 From Matthew Bailey : Ethical AI Certification and Maturity Model to be announced this week
17:54:07 From Vibhav Mithal : Outstanding talk!
17:54:29 From Markus Krebsz : @Matthew by whom / which org?
17:54:41 From Paul Levy : Happy to continue conversations https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-levy-1b35853
17:54:44 From Ana Montes : Thank you for a great talk.
17:55:36 From Markus Krebsz : That last part I am currently working on, more to come via MKAI WhatsApp group 😉
17:55:55 From Markus Krebsz : (with the UN)
17:56:00 From Karen Beraldo : Looking forward!!!
17:56:08 From Hanno Eigenbrod to Richard Foster-Fletcher(Direct Message) : Would an AI be non binary?
17:56:13 From Alex Monaghan Eckoh : I agree with these goals, but they have never been followed in any other tech wave. Why and how will they be followed now?
17:57:29 From Paul Levy : It can’t catch up with us because we are complexly mediocre. Very hard to emulate
17:57:51 From Markus Krebsz : Agree with that sentiment, Paul
17:58:05 From Anu Toor : Thank you Virginie for such an informative presentation.
17:58:18 From Vibhav Mithal : Thank you so much for a wonderful talk!
17:58:22 From delphine_nyaboke : Thank you for a great talk Virginie.!
17:58:23 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : Please join me in thanking Virginie for a wonderful talk 🙂
17:58:25 From KaT . : Fantastic talk Virginie !!! Thank you so much !!
17:58:29 From Harold Huggins : THanks
17:58:47 From Paul Levy : Thanks Virginie – timely talk
17:58:59 From jayanta : Thanks Virgie, loads of information and very thought provoking
17:59:07 From Kishen Seyjagat : Great talk!!
17:59:20 From Frank Rohde : thank you Virginie
17:59:21 From Odilia Coi : Awesome talk, many thanks Virginie!
17:59:29 From Lavina Ramkissoon 🙂 : well done my friend!!
17:59:43 From Oudarjya Sen Sarma : Thank you virginie
17:59:44 From Dino Bose : Thanks Virginie!
17:59:49 From Murali Sathya : Amazing Talks Virginie
17:59:56 From Hanno Eigenbrod to Richard Foster-Fletcher(Direct Message) : Great talk!
18:00:04 From Alexandra : Wonderful thank you Virginie!
18:00:12 From Hanno Eigenbrod : Thank you Virginie
18:00:17 From Elijah Kalii, Nairobi : Thank you for the energy Virginie
18:00:18 From Sean Culey : Thank you for an inspiring talk Virginie.
18:00:24 From Matthew Bailey : Very good….nicely done….fabulous vision….
18:00:44 From Virginie Martins de Nobrega : Thank you all !
18:01:09 From Jaisal Surana : Thanks Virginie for your talk very insightful
18:01:28 From Vibhav Mithal : The video is playing well now!
18:01:47 From Chetan Shah : Thank you Virginie for the powerful talk.
18:01:51 From Paul Levy : We often vision AI as on a developmental timeline that began with the electronic calculator. but there is another, perhaps more unbearable to consider timeline that begins with the Prometheus, the Golem, the cloning of sheep and illegal biology
18:02:06 From Enzo Ferrari : Thank you so much Virginie! it was fascinating!
18:02:32 From Gerry Copitch : Wonderful Virginie! Thanks!
18:04:02 From Markus Krebsz : Gerry rocks!!!
18:04:12 From Jaisal Surana : +1 @Markus
18:04:16 From Timi Olagunju : Thanks Virginie!
18:04:21 From Vibhav Mithal : Gerry is here on chat. He is here on video. He is on the screen!
18:04:35 From Paul Levy : Gerry is wise
18:04:43 From Vibhav Mithal : +1 Paul
18:04:48 From Kishen Seyjagat : Defragmentation on steriods!
18:05:11 From Ana Montes : When man went to the moon the computer data was validated by checked by humans, now we have computers validate humans. What is lost in the process? Are we as humans by doing that limiting the evolutionary transformations of our own brains?
18:05:46 From Liam McDermott : AI has more buzzwords associated with it than prior technologies. The simple truth is that it is just juiced up statistical models. “Machine Learning” refers to the algorithm adjusting itself to reflect additional data collection. The term “neural network” is derived from a conceptual similarity to brain cells, but only in the sense of a two dimensional sketch on a whiteboard. It really isn’t that exciting 🙂
18:05:50 From Errol Finkelstein : Awesome Gerry – terrific stuff
18:06:59 From Alex Monaghan Eckoh : Gerry’s vision reminds me of the film Idiocracy – as machines advance, humans regress!
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18:11:26 From Alex Monaghan Eckoh : Um that’s not what adaptation is …
18:11:31 From Jeff Ester : Thank you Virginie. Maybe we can strive for Balance between natural Universe, Humanity, and technology… http://www.AiforPeace.org
18:11:43 From Virginie Martins de Nobrega : Yes !
18:12:01 From Virginie Martins de Nobrega : I know Branca.
18:12:24 From Paul Levy : the music in this video is a bit scary
18:12:35 From Lavina Ramkissoon 🙂 : Vote for movie night one a month @richard
18:12:46 From jayanta : Kind of agree Paul,
18:12:47 From Markus Krebsz : Yes pls, movie night
18:12:49 From Hanno Eigenbrod : @paul Want me to hold your hand ?
18:12:50 From Gerry Copitch : @Alex ….. can see no reason why that should be the case. ‘Machines’ will save and advance humanity.
18:13:23 From Adina Tarry : yes 2 movie night |||
18:13:24 From Vibhav Mithal : Agree @Lavina. It feels like a movie night. Amazing videos!
18:13:35 From Dino Bose : we’re all gonna have to binge the Matrix movies after this
18:13:45 From Dino Bose : and then throw in some 2001 and Terminator movies
18:13:45 From Markus Krebsz : Love the park, Haroldo, where is it?
18:13:52 From delphine_nyaboke : this is wonderful .!
18:13:59 From Anu Toor : Impressive!!
18:14:04 From Paul Levy : we could turn off ALL of this technology tomorrow and have a big cake sale – just sayin’.
18:14:12 From Oudarjya Sen Sarma : That was really impressive
18:14:16 From Alex Monaghan Eckoh : Same question again – who will make the right decisions? It’s never happened yet!
18:14:16 From Chetan Shah : fab video
18:14:17 From Hanno Eigenbrod : I love cake
18:14:22 From David Wood : Suggestions for films to watch? I have a soft spot for “Robot and Frank” https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1990314/
18:14:26 From Kishen Seyjagat : Love the video! Thanks Haroldo!
18:14:26 From Aleksandra Hadzic : Outstanding
18:14:29 From Hanno Eigenbrod : Thank you for the video beautiful
18:14:34 From Vibhav Mithal : What a fantastic video!
18:15:06 From Jaisal Surana : today all the videos are so good I must say
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18:15:28 From Errol Finkelstein : AI will become more pervasive than the Wheel and more than the useful deployment of Electricity. These are transformative processes but AI will potentially be a very long continuous journey of innovation, with self-propelling new waves and new heights emerging from within itself. This multi-dimensional, self perpetuating characterstic, as well as the scope for radically improved outcomes (the answers to which almost always lie in the data) put AI into a league on its own compared to all prior Revolutions.
18:15:35 From Gerry Copitch : @Jaisal ….. Wish I had some popcorn 🙂
18:15:39 From David Wood : @Paul – If we turn off all our technology, we wouldn’t have any more of these MKAI events over Zoom, and in any case most of us would probably have died by our age from one or more infectious disease
18:15:58 From Hanno Eigenbrod : Actually. Had cake at Bletchley park once
18:16:26 From Paul Levy : well @David, what a cake sale to end all cake sales it could be!
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18:16:46 From Paul Levy : important question @Alex
18:16:47 From jayanta : @David, agree with you. technology always have pros and cons. think about internet,
18:16:55 From Alex Monaghan Eckoh : @gerry I’m not saying Idiocracy is inevitable – but I see no strong push in a different direction yet
18:17:02 From Lavina Ramkissoon 🙂 : hahaha haha
18:17:47 From Paul Levy : I once knew a futurist who cancelled his keynote speech because he knew no one would show up.
18:17:59 From Dino Bose : 🙂
18:18:02 From Alexandra : haha
18:18:14 From Hanno Eigenbrod : No one, is everyone
18:18:17 From Gerry Copitch : @Paul….turned off all the tech. but can’t now bake a cake
18:18:45 From Liam McDermott : I’m really upset those UAPs broke the ‘laws of physics”
18:18:45 From Dino Bose : Or that one time I walked into a psychic’s office and she said “I knew you were coming”
18:19:05 From David Wood : @Alex Re “who will make the right decisions? It’s never happened yet!” – my answer is that we urgently need to improve our democratic processes, to enable decisions to be taken “by the people, for the people”
18:19:10 From Hanno Eigenbrod : Lol
18:19:14 From Lavina Ramkissoon 🙂 : let get Markus to build a hot to bake cake
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18:20:10 From Chetan Shah : have joined the telegram group
18:20:20 From Chetan Shah : nice video
18:20:27 From Harold Huggins : well done video
18:20:32 From renatosantanna@gmail.com : Bye everyone! Great event!
18:20:33 From Vibhav Mithal : Liking the videos and the event – please follow this post – https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6824005821882540032/
18:20:34 From David Wood : @Paul – As you know, good futurists make no claim to having a crystal ball. We try to talk in terms of credible scenarios, rather than definite foreseen outcomes 🙂
18:20:42 From Gerry Copitch : @David ….. unconvinced that people are good at making decisions
18:20:55 From Alex Monaghan Eckoh : Look at Alexa apps, look at ML applications, look at robot deployments – the large take-up is to make life easier and more uniform, to make business faster but no more compassionate or intelligent, and to extend heavy industries which are damaging the environment. There are some small scale exceptions. How many robots are looking for oil under the sea, and how many are removing plastic from the oceans? A big number, and a small number.
18:20:58 From Vibhav Mithal : Excellent video Haroldo!
18:21:01 From Bruce Hoffman : That’s crazy.
18:21:05 From Paul Levy : apologies @david, it was indeed a terrible joke
18:21:30 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Richard Foster-Fletcher(Direct Message) : Bye Richard! Great event!
18:21:42 From David Wood : @Gerry – Yes, “the best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with an average voter”. Nevertheless, done well, democracy is still the best governance system that we have
18:21:45 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to renatosantanna@gmail.com(Direct Message) : Bye
18:22:10 From Gerry Copitch : @David …..agreed
18:22:17 From Dino Bose : “5 min conversation with the average voter”
18:22:44 From Markus Krebsz : I enjoy fleeing into my VR world, sometimes
18:22:46 From Gerry Copitch : @DIno ….. I think I’ve met him 🙂
18:22:56 From Markus Krebsz : Recommend Tripp on Oculus
18:23:01 From Markus Krebsz : And Wander
18:23:13 From Dino Bose : @Gerry we’ve all met him
18:23:18 From Paul Levy : I wonder if this definition of “metaverse” is a model.of convenience for AI. if it is a digital metaverse, thats fine, but it misunderstands perception utterly. it argues for immersive addiction and surrender. There are, of course, other, richer, beautifully ambiguous quirky and indeed quarky paths
18:23:20 From Vibhav Mithal : If you want to know more about MKAI – please free to connect – https://www.linkedin.com/in/vibhav-mithal-9199b416/
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18:23:43 From KaT . : Haroldo, really impressive talk !! Thank you for sharing with us the meanders of VR .. That’s an amazing topic ! I started to read a book of “How Virtual Therapeutics Will Revolutionize Medicine “ by Brennan Spiegel .. we talk about the future which is here now
18:24:09 From Kishen Seyjagat : Thank you Haroldo!
18:24:12 From Markus Krebsz : Really enjoyed this, Haroldo and will reached out via DM – catchup from where we left off last
18:24:13 From Gerry Copitch : Awesome Haroldo!
18:24:19 From Adina Tarry : Thank you Haroldo!
18:24:33 From delphine_nyaboke : thank you Haroldo.!
18:24:34 From Anu Toor : Thank you Haroldo!!
18:24:43 From Jaisal Surana : thanks Haroldo
18:24:53 From Ana Montes : Thanks Haroldo
18:25:17 From Murali Sathya : Thanks Haroldo
18:25:19 From Pinal Patel : Hello smart people, let’s connect on a smart platform ;-)www.linkedin.com/in/pinal-patel17
18:25:43 From Markus Krebsz : I feel I am missing out. Do I need a podcast? Something to discuss @Paul over our next Wonder session 😉
18:26:17 From Vibhav Mithal : Thanks Haroldo! Brilliant, as always.
18:26:28 From Paul Levy : I have an Oddcast @markus
18:26:39 From Lavina Ramkissoon 🙂 : thanks Harold! #appreciation
18:27:03 From Markus Krebsz : @Kathleen, where would Ai using Neurotechnology (non-invasive brain stimulation) fit please?
18:27:38 From Markus Krebsz : Oh, I definitely fit into the “odd”cast category
18:27:42 From Haroldo Sato : Thanks everyone
18:27:49 From Haroldo Sato : https://www.linkedin.com/in/haroldosato/
18:28:37 From David Wood : Are these seven patterns really separate from each other? I think there are lots of overlaps.
18:29:38 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : You can connect easily with your fellow community members by commenting on this post:
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18:29:42 From Paul Levy : Excellent model for different types of complex processing, Kathleen
18:29:44 From Chetan Shah : nothing really is separate….everything should be connected..
18:31:44 From Alex Monaghan Eckoh : I would love to see people making democratic choices for the greater good of society, but that has not been in evidence recently – Trump, Brexit, the rise of the far right in many countries, the laws against diversity in many countries, all democratically voted for. Business in general is not going to prefer ethics over profit. The military is not usually keen to downsize, or to say no to technological advantages. We need a powerful group which can say what should and should not be done with AI – has anyone seen one? The UN is doing a little bit, but business and military and political interests are the strongest voices even at the UN.
18:31:44 From Jaisal Surana to Richard Foster-Fletcher(Direct Message) : From Markus Krebsz to Everyone: 05:26 PM
- Q) What do we need to do right now?
From Adina Tarry to Everyone: 05:26 PM
How is AI different from othehr techs
From Alex Monaghan Eckoh to Everyone: 05:27 PM
Who really holds the power here? That is the big question! Who can make the decisions?
From David Wood to Everyone: 05:27 PM
Q: How precisely do you think the timescales described by Kondratieff can be anticipated in advance for new waves of tech disruption?
From Hanno Eigenbrod to Everyone: 05:27 PM
Can we teach AI in loving kindness?
From Ana Montes to Everyone: 05:28 PM
We can’t separate the light and shadow of our human condition, how can we make sure we are considering both as we develop technology?
It could be a technology but the people training that technology are human. So can it become an ideology?
From Kishen Seyjagat to Everyone: 05:45 PM
Does the scanning of emotions determine your dexterity?
From Oyewole Simon Oginni to Everyone: 05:48 PM
If we talk about children, what about the old? The
18:32:39 From Hanno Eigenbrod : There are certain limitations to democracy, they haven’t always produced the wisest of outcomes
18:34:01 From Alex Monaghan Eckoh : @ last speaker, please tell us how you know when data is sufficiently clean, unbiased, and complete. Not sure we will ever get there
18:34:47 From Liam McDermott : No one holds power over AI…it is open source
18:35:22 From Ana Montes : Democracy is messy, it stumbles and grows, and it is still the best option we have.
18:35:25 From Alex Monaghan Eckoh : Open source can’t stop bad applications
18:35:33 From David Wood : @Alex, @Hanno – Agreed, there have been some very worrying developments. And some more encouraging ones too, in parts of Europe and Canada (and things are even getter better in the US).
Moreover, politics *has* done quite well in the past, although there are many people with vested interests in speaking badly of the power of the state.
What I actually advocate (in my book “Vital Foresight”) is something I describe as “superdemocracy” rather than today’s democracy
18:35:47 From Frank Rohde : open source doesnt mean that everybody can apply it or has a use for it.
18:36:31 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : Who would like to turn their mic and camera on to ask a question to the panel?
18:36:35 From Chetan Shah : opensource is not really as open as we may think…they are driven by multiple organizations, not just one….
18:37:25 From Jeff Ester : Editor choice… https://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Nine-Amy-Webb-audiobook/dp/B07P5TJGLJ/ref=tmm_aud_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
18:37:37 From David Wood : >”We need a powerful group which can say what should and should not be done with AI – has anyone seen one?”
Former UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown actually makes a bunch of good suggestions in his own recent book, “Seven Ways to Save the World”.
He sees roles for transformed versions of some existing bodies such as G7 and G20
18:37:44 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : Good recommendation Jeff
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18:41:08 From Paul Levy : “So it goes” Kurt Vonnegut
18:42:43 From Anu Toor : Thank you again to all the speakers for sharing their insights. Thanks to team MKAI
18:42:57 From Kishen Seyjagat : Do you guys think with the advent of chat bots, ai representatives that the human to customer/patreon interaction will be significantly reduced in the future?
18:42:59 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : Thanks Anu, great to see you
18:43:02 From Kathleen Walch : If you want to read more about the Seven patterns of AI: Seven Patterns of AI article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/cognitiveworld/2019/09/17/the-seven-patterns-of-ai/?sh=1da7c6b212d0
Seven Patterns of AI podcast: https://www.cognilytica.com/2019/04/17/ai-today-podcast-85-the-seven-patterns-of-ai/
18:43:24 From David Wood : One of the most profound insights of Kondratieff in my opinion is the fact that technology waves each go through two phases – the early one being driven by technological innovation, and the second one being driven by innovation in social and political forms.
18:43:51 From Paul Levy : great point @david
18:43:57 From Alex Monaghan Eckoh : OK so now I’m thinking Golden Eye – Boris the coder, for whom it’s all just a game or a puzzle. The same people spreading ransom ware through health systems will soon be spreading AI bots
18:44:01 From Ana Montes : AI ethical audits are more necessary then ever, how can we make it part of the certification of quality of a business?
18:44:04 From Chetan Shah : Thank you guys…thank you Rickard….for a enriching session …look forward to many more….need to log off….have a good day, evening or night…take care…
18:44:12 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : Thank you Chetan
18:44:24 From Odilia Coi : Interoperability is crucial, well said Virginie!
18:44:35 From Gerry Copitch : +1 @David
18:44:50 From David Wood : This insight of Kondratieff (and its implications for the present time) is explained particularly well by Venezuelan-British economist Carlota Perez. It’s well worth tracking down some of her videos on this subject
18:45:29 From Gerry Copitch : tHANKS
18:45:36 From Gerry Copitch : Thanks
18:46:05 From maria@santacaterinaconsulting.com to Richard Foster-Fletcher(Direct Message) : Hi Richard, I hope you are well. Is there a way to increase the volume? I have tried my side but to no avail!
18:46:39 From Alex Monaghan Eckoh : We need an HLM movement – Human Lives Matter – and any anti-human AI should be called out.
18:47:14 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to maria@santacaterinaconsulting.com(Direct Message) : It’s playing pretty fine this side. Have you checked your sound settings, in case the system volume has been reduced?
18:47:25 From Kishen Seyjagat : @Alex what are the standards that define when an AI is considered Anti-Human?
18:47:40 From Liam McDermott : Terminato 2 lol
18:47:53 From Kishen Seyjagat : Point taken @ Liam lol
18:48:04 From Liam McDermott : Sorry for the misspelling lol
18:48:54 From Alex Monaghan Eckoh : If it impacts jobs, society, equality, the environment, and of course actual lives, it could be considered anti-human
18:49:02 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : Epic question!
18:49:46 From Chinmoy Baruah : Good question!
18:50:13 From Paul Levy : No! It is because it isnt AI! sheesh.
18:50:18 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : We will close the official session at the hour. Then we’ll have an after-party for those who want to stay and share some reflections.
18:50:44 From Odilia Coi : Excellent points Kathleen!
18:50:59 From David Wood : Q: Do the panellists advocate legal requirements for each AI/ML system in a commercial contract to pass an audit of its ethics? If so, how will these regulations be agreed and monitored? Or should it simply be left to the market to indicate which AI/ML solutions it prefers?
18:51:32 From Alex Monaghan Eckoh : Interesting re adoption of AI. What are we selling here – vaccines which are good for most people, or Valium which is open to massive abuse, or tobacco which is addictive and deadly for millions?
18:51:44 From esklavounou to Richard Foster-Fletcher(Direct Message) : Will need to drop at the hour. Next time. Johan’s and Haroldo’s presentations really thought-provoking. Very glad I joined.
18:52:05 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to esklavounou(Direct Message) : Thank you 🙂
18:52:11 From Liam McDermott : AI…the new opiate of the masses?
18:52:22 From Megan : Here’s a link to an article about Cognilytica’s CPMAI Education: CPMAI methodology
18:52:34 From Paul Levy : Hugely insulting to pagans.
18:52:35 From Kishen Seyjagat : AI +VR might be the opiate @Liam
18:52:43 From David Wood : @Alex – The real challenge is that all three of these analogies are true, at the same time! The same AI/ML systems can be used in all three ways.
18:52:46 From Vibhav Mithal : Fantastic panel discussion to demystify AI
18:52:53 From Megan : https://www.cognilytica.com/cpmai-methodology/
18:53:04 From Gerry Copitch : Pagan Lives Matter
18:53:17 From Markus Krebsz : @Paul, maybe we could add the Pagans also to our Wonder Virtual coffee list?
18:53:20 From Dino Bose : 😀
18:53:23 From David Wood : (And, just as the case for tobacco and valium, there are people who will argue strongly that, if the customer wants it, that’s a good thing…)
18:53:26 From Paul Levy : https://countercurrents.org/2019/05/the-timeless-wisdom-of-the-pagan-understanding-of-nature/
18:53:32 From Dino Bose : Stonehenge… early AI
18:53:45 From Paul Levy : looking forward to it, @Markus
18:53:47 From Gerry Copitch : 🙂
18:53:49 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to David Wood(Direct Message) : David, would you like to say a few words at the end of the forum?
18:53:50 From Alex Monaghan Eckoh : Pagans bake fantastic cakes!!
18:54:21 From David Wood : Re “the pagan inside” – recall the words of Lord Acton: “Great men are nearly always bad men”
18:54:23 From Paul Levy : https://www.wired.com/1995/07/technopagans/
18:54:25 From Markus Krebsz : Would a “sixth sense” be a natural version of (human) Augmented intelligence?
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18:55:05 From David Wood to Richard Foster-Fletcher(Direct Message) : Can do! Should I ask a question, or just offer a quick comment?
18:55:10 From Paul Levy : Many commentators see current AI and tech as startlingly retrograde and primitive
18:55:21 From Vibhav Mithal : Allocating budget to education will be very important for AI – and will help create a more aware society. Great point Virgine!
18:55:27 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to David Wood(Direct Message) : 1 min of reflections from the day would be ideal
18:55:30 From Paul Levy : Mark Zuckerberg isn’t exactly Yoda
18:55:33 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to David Wood(Direct Message) : Are you ok to turn the camera on?
18:55:41 From Paul Levy : Yoda = pagan
18:55:46 From Alex Monaghan Eckoh : Philanthropy can happen – the MPESA project from Vodafone for example.
18:55:48 From David Wood to Richard Foster-Fletcher(Direct Message) : Fine – I’ll draw some thoughts together quickly
18:55:56 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to David Wood(Direct Message) : Thank you
18:56:21 From Markus Krebsz : @Paul agree as it’s somewhat very tunnel-vision-like limited in a certain niche. If it’s asked to do something “outside the Ai box” it fails usually miserably. Whereas many humans would not!
18:56:53 From Markus Krebsz : Zuckerberg is more like impersonified Ai @Paul 😉
18:57:16 From Tathagat Varma : Thanks for a lively conversation this evening!
18:57:45 From Ana Montes : Thank to the panel for your input.
18:58:47 From Markus Krebsz : Yes, big thank you to all the panelists for their inspiring talks.
Thanks to MKAI & Richard for another fabulous session
Thanks to Jaisal for being a good bad cop and Vib for keeping the comms sane and organised
Thanks to Paul for his enlightened views
Thanks to everyone for everything you do!
18:59:16 From Liam McDermott : Thank you everyone! Great session!!
18:59:24 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : Can we answer this in 20 secs 🙂
18:59:25 From Murali Sathya : Thanks to all the speakers, Richard and MKAI
19:00:03 From Bruce Hoffman : Thanks to everyone again. Enlightening conversation
19:00:06 From Markus Krebsz : Maybe Ai helps us more to learn / understand ourselves?
19:00:17 From Paul Levy : Superb variety of perspectives and diversity of speakers – wonderful session MKAI!
19:00:47 From Vibhav Mithal : Thank you everyone!! For the final time – all the MKAI links for you to join –
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19:01:13 From Markus Krebsz : See some (many) of you on the MKAI WhatsApp group chat
19:01:51 From Vibhav Mithal : Here is the LinkedIn link for the event if you want to comment – https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6824005821882540032/
19:03:03 From Markus Krebsz : Agree with Virginie – deffo an Ai information overload
19:03:09 From Megan : Here’s the info about the Cognilytica CPMAI Education for Methodologies and Best Practices again just to make sure everyone has access: https://www.cognilytica.com/cpmai-methodology/
19:04:06 From Markus Krebsz : An Ainiverse
19:05:17 From Markus Krebsz : Daniel Kahneman’s Thinking Fast and Slow comes to mind…
19:05:19 From Gerry Copitch : Spot on David!!!
19:05:38 From Markus Krebsz : There’s actually benefit in slowing some of that velocity down
19:06:26 From Paul Levy : Watch out for the future of REAL Ai: Self-repairing plastics, artificial biology- brain enhancement and new forms of life grown in a lab, msnipulation of physics, morphogenic fields – here it comes! NON-ELECTRIC AI, non coded AI, ………
19:06:42 From Odilia Coi : Amazing @David! Thank you so much for such a rich session!
19:08:36 From KaT . : Thank you everyone!! Another fantastic event !!
19:09:00 From maria@santacaterinaconsulting.com : Thank you everyone for a fascinating discussion.
19:09:02 From Pinal Patel : AMAZING !!!! Thank you everyone
19:09:09 From Odilia Coi : Thanks @Vibhav brilliant as always!Kudos for @Jaisal and @Richard for the moderation!
19:09:23 From Chinmoy Baruah : Thank you everyone!
19:09:25 From Mario Angelelli : Thank you for sharing your experience!
19:09:31 From Harold Huggins : Thanks
19:15:23 From Jaisal Surana : thanks everyone
19:15:31 From Jaisal Surana : thanks @Odilia for your kind words
19:16:03 From Jaisal Surana : Thanks @Markus.
19:17:35 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : https://mkai.org/community-blog/
19:17:47 From delphine_nyaboke : I had a wonderful time today. see you soon
19:18:01 From Karen Beraldo : Thank you Delphine!
19:18:45 From Aleksandra Hadzic : https://mkai.org/community-blog/
19:19:10 From Henry Kafeman : Fascinating and thought provoking as ever! – Thanks all…. Have to go…
19:19:21 From Vibhav Mithal : Thank you Henry!
19:19:31 From Karen Beraldo : Thank you
19:19:35 From Kathleen Walch : I need to go too- bye everyone!
19:19:54 From Karen Beraldo : Kathleen you are amazing! Thank you!
19:19:59 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : Thank you Kathleen
19:20:17 From Jaisal Surana : Thank you Kathleen wonderful talk to know you
19:27:45 From Harold Huggins : Hi Everyone,
Downtown Crenshaw, Los Angeles, California, is a community organization that delivered a bid proposal to purchase the Crenshaw Mall. Deutsche Bank denied the community’s bid: how do I introduce the development of an AI park to better the community. Here is the URL link to Downtown Crenshaw, https://www.instagram.com/p/CRm1DY3AEDY/
Here is my email address, Harold Huggins, director@CforED.com
Harold
19:28:48 From Vibhav Mithal to Richard Foster-Fletcher(Direct Message) : Ask her to join Errol and Monika group?
19:30:14 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : https://t.me/joinchat/9_YAbNz6WQAyZWJk
19:31:20 From Jaisal Surana : sorry need to drop off for dinner.
19:31:37 From Aleksandra Hadzic : All good, enjoy Jaisal, many thanks for wonderful moderation!
19:31:37 From Karen Beraldo : Thank you so much Jaisal!!!
19:31:48 From David Wood : Collaboration, collaboration, collaboration!
19:32:00 From Jaisal Surana : thanks @Alex, @Karen
19:32:02 From Virginie Martins de Nobrega : Dear all, I need to leave. Thank you for having us tonight. Thank you for this Community. Kindest, Virginie
19:32:06 From Jaisal Surana : see you.
19:32:21 From Aleksandra Hadzic : Dear Virginie, thank you so much for wonderful insights and for staying with us
19:32:23 From Arundhati Kandan Ramdas : Thank you hosting this wonderful event! I have to leave but it was a very interesting and educational session. I hope I meet you all virtually soon at another event about AI!
19:32:27 From David Wood : I need to leave too, sorry. It’s been a great session.
Bye…
19:33:10 From Karen Beraldo : Virginie thank you so much for blowing up our minds! Loved your talk, hopefully we can continue connected
19:33:30 From Karen Beraldo : Thanks David, it alwyas wonderful to have you with us
19:34:02 From Karen Beraldo : Thank you Arundhati!
19:37:03 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : The pernicious myth of infinite growth
19:37:38 From Vibhav Mithal : Need to drop off. Thank you so much Richard, and everyone who joined us today. Please take care everyone!
19:39:20 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : Glad I’m wearing my bamboo t-shirt right now 🙂
19:40:32 From Lavina Ramkissoon 🙂 : hahaha Richard
have a great evenings
thanks for fab insights
my parting thoughts we, by nature, introspect with things around us, so why should AI be any different in our application.
reading T-Minus AI and Heartifical Intelligence which amplifies this more and more
19:40:58 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : Thanks for being here Lavina
19:41:08 From Lavina Ramkissoon 🙂 : hahaha, useless information they making waterless beer to have planet
19:41:09 From Karen Beraldo : Thank you Lavina!
19:44:58 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : Here’s the link to Women in MKAI https://tixoom.app/mkailive/cjfoyvfr
19:47:40 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : https://t.me/joinchat/GAK1rcRFGKc4YjA1
19:51:43 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : Is this you Frank? https://www.linkedin.com/in/frank-rohde-926a94197/
19:56:55 From Harold Huggins : Thanks, and good night everyone
19:57:09 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : Good night Harold
19:57:11 From Karen Beraldo : Thank you Harold!
19:57:21 From Karen Beraldo : Have a good rest
20:09:05 From Charu Nair : What does MK stand for? 🙂
20:09:33 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : More Kindness
20:09:35 From Karen Beraldo : MK = Milton Keynes
20:09:59 From Karen Beraldo : Wonderful!!!! Wish I did not say anything
20:10:51 From Richard Foster-Fletcher : I just checked the website and apparently it does stand for Milton Keynes 🙂
20:10:57 From Charu Nair : Yeah Richard! Like that lots
20:11:08 From Charu Nair : 🙂
20:13:01 From Charu Nair : Thanks all
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