Opening Address: David Wood
Title: Transhumanist, Futurist and Autho
Speaker 1: Dr. Valérie Morignat
Title: CEO of Intelligent Story and Professor of AI Strategy & Responsible AI Design
A polymath by trade, Dr. Valérie Morignat is the CEO of Intelligent Story and Associate Professor of AI Strategy and Ethical AI Design at aivancity. She is a global AI expert and interactive design leader with cross-functional experience in business, government, and academia. She holds a Ph.D. from the Sorbonne University, two certifications from MIT in AI Strategy and Machine Learning, and is certified by IDF in VR/AR design.
Dr. Morignat also worked as a tenured Associate Professor of Cinema and Interactive Arts at the University of Montpellier. A Government-appointed policy advisor, she devised inclusive forward-leaning reforms and transferred high-value technology to the public sector. Based in San Francisco since 2015, she led world-class teams in technology firms and healthcare marketing agencies, servicing a portfolio of 20+ Fortune 100 clients.
Dr. Morignat is an AI Ethics advisor to organizations such as IEEE (USA), Springer Nature (UK), and Women in AI (USA), and an Ambassador to the World AI Summit.
Speaker 2: Rose Mwebaza PhD
Title: Director at UN Climate Technology Centre and Network
Rose is the Director of the UN Climate Technology Centre and has 20 years’ experience providing policy advice on a wide range of climate change, environment and sustainable development issues. She has previously served as Chief Natural Resources Officer at the African Development Bank, and held leadership positions within the UN Development Programme. Rose holds a PhD in Environment and Natural Resource Governance, a Master’s Degree in International Comparative Law and a Bachelor of Law Degree.
Speaker 3: Timi Olagunju
Title: Tech Lawyer and Policy Consultant
Timi Olagunju is one of Africa’s foremost tech lawyer and policy consultant, with core capacity in digital policy and open governance. He is Africa’s representative and Global Vice President on the Global Members Advisory Board at the International Republican Institute’s Generation Democracy (IRI-GD), representing policy leaders and organizations across 70 countries working on driving open governance. He is 2020 Most Influential Young Nigerian in Policy Influencing (YNaija). He also sits on the board of Feed to Grow Africa.
Timi is a recipient of several awards for his distinction in policy influencing and open governance, including an award from the Ooni of Ife and President Barack Obama. He has made several presentations on digital policy, open governance, and has authored two books namely: ‘The Hustlers’ Mentality’, and ‘Yes Africa Can’. He participated in the Research Sprint on digital self determination at the Berkman Klein Centre Society for Internet and Society in Harvard University. He tweets @timithelaw.
Chat Transcript:
17:12:57 From Mustapha to Everyone : Hello from “Ai in Africa”, if you are interested in collaborating in bridging the divide in empowering the youth in Africa for a more inclusive future with AI by 2030 , please reach out https://www.linkedin.com/in/mustaphazaouini/
17:13:00 From Alex Monaghan to Everyone : On the other hand, I think we need to keep in mind the important distinction between actual progress, and marketing.
17:13:15 From Ahmadu Sulaiman Rufai to Everyone : https://www.linkedin.com/in/ahmadu-sulaiman-rufai-a41341203
17:13:32 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Am feeling a bit old now: I’ve warned about “black box” & Model risks and the resulting opacity in my book in 2011 (although focussed on those risks in Financial Services, not Ai- specific).
17:15:16 From Alex Monaghan to Everyone : Don’t worry, Markus – I’ve been teaching about the hit-and-miss nature of data-driven AI since 1994 at least!
17:15:25 From David Wood to Everyone : @Alex – That’s an important point. That’s why we should support projects that seek to measure the progress of AI in objective ways. Such as the AI Index report from Stanford https://hai.stanford.edu/research/ai-index-2021
17:15:32 From Gerry Copitch to Everyone : https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerrycopitch/
17:16:31 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Agree with David – once “humanity” is wiped out, it’ll be rather difficult to rebuild global populations…
17:17:08 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : There are the AI winters also!
17:17:16 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : https://www.linkedin.com/in/mkrebsz/
17:17:56 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : co-petition (cooperation + competition)
17:18:03 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Also, please visit & follow: http://www.human-ai.institute/
17:18:26 From Pranil to Everyone : https://www.linkedin.com/in/pranil-shinde
17:18:34 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Thanks @Alex, you made me feel rather young now!
17:18:49 From Peter Scott to Everyone : David, there is an argument that we should develop AGI as soon as possible, because the earlier it appears, the slower the hardware will be and therefore we will have the most time in which to react to how it evolves towards ASI. I generally agree with this argument but am open to being dissuaded. Where do you stand on this proposal?
17:19:21 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Thinking of some “Ai Black Swans” now…
17:19:45 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : I think that is not a sure thing that AGI will come to happen
17:19:50 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Great session / talk – thank you @david!
17:19:56 From H.E. Amb. Terry Earthwind Nichols to Everyone : Great start!
17:20:03 From Jaisal Surana to Everyone : Amazing insights on the future Thanks David.
17:20:28 From Alannah to Everyone : Thankyou David 🙂
17:20:32 From Elena Kozhemyakina to Everyone : David will you be sharing these slides with attendees please?
17:20:33 From Lucky to Everyone : Great insights shared
17:20:35 From Mustapha to Everyone : Thanks for the insights .
17:20:35 From Carsten Holstein to Everyone : Thank You David
17:20:43 From Richard B to Everyone : Thank you David, very thought provoking
17:20:57 From Lucky to Everyone : Thank you David
17:21:00 From Chinmoy Baruah to Everyone : Great to hear
17:21:06 From Odilia Coi to Everyone : Thank you David and congratulations for your book!
17:21:09 From Tanmay Agrawal to Everyone : Thanks a lot David for the opening remarks
17:21:12 From Alexandra to Everyone : Great presentation!
17:21:33 From David Wood to Everyone : @Renato – There may be some “local” AI winters in the future, concerning particular approaches to AI which turn out to deliver less than expected, but the field as a whole is creating so much value that an entire brake is very unlikely in my opinion
17:21:38 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : Excellent – and exceptionally insightful David. Thank you so much for sharing. Fantastic presentation!
17:21:55 From karen rea to Everyone : Back on Zoom. Hope this is the right place…
17:22:07 From Piyush Sharma to Everyone : Piyush from India -a post grad fellow in AI? ML and a humane/ inclusive tech advocate. Happy to connect with you all.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/piyushsharmanith/
17:22:09 From David Wood to Everyone : Details of my book “Vital Foresight” as just mentioned: https://transpolitica.org/projects/vital-foresight/
17:22:18 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : In financial services, we always warn about not using past experience (=data) to predict future performance!
17:22:35 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : @David Agree! But decreasing martingal returns are possible! We already had 2 AI Winters.
17:23:06 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : decreasing marginal returns*
17:23:16 From Alex Monaghan to Everyone : MK is the next SF – we have the fog, we have guided buses, and there are t least 2 artificial hills! 🙂
17:23:18 From Errol Finkelstein to Everyone : Fantastic broad approach David, thank you. It frames the question, and questions of where other disciplines will be in 2030 too.
17:23:34 From David Wood to Everyone : A separate recording of my presentation is available at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkar8b-L_10
17:24:01 From Odilia Coi to Everyone : Thank you for sharing this David!
17:24:47 From Karen Silverman to Everyone : Who else is in SF? Let’s gather for a drink and take a photo for the MK crew!
17:25:15 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : Welcome @Karen Silverman! Great to see you here.
17:25:29 From Peter Scott to Everyone : Same time zone, different latitude 🙂
17:26:02 From karen rea to Everyone : Karen S, Valerie and Kay and, if I hit SF, I’ll be there too!
17:26:50 From Georgios Raikos to Everyone : what do you all believe will be the contribution of AI distributed analytics to meeting the Paris CO2 emissions target? (“Distributed” is the key term in the question)
17:27:11 From Mustapha to Everyone : “not evenly distributed” !
17:27:32 From David Wood to Everyone : @Peter – re “there is an argument that we should develop AGI as soon as possible there is an argument that we should develop AGI as soon as possible, because the earlier it appears, the slower the hardware will be and therefore we will have the most time in which to react to” – but it may be the case that today’s hardware (cloud etc) is ALREADY strong enough for new AI algorithms to cause huge problems. So we need to prioritise the AI safety issues, rather than getting AGI earlier
17:27:36 From Hanno Eigenbrod to Everyone : WhT impact did. Konrad zuse have on roboticsz. He lived in the same village as me
17:27:48 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Everyone : To make it easy to connect with each other, we’ve created a special LinkedIn post with the speaker tags. Please comment hello on the post to let others know that you would like to connect:
https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6813858329413107713
17:28:08 From hesam to Everyone : yes and THOR had a smart hammer!
17:28:32 From Alex Monaghan to Everyone : Equal distribution of assets has not worked out well for education, food, medicine, and even low tech applications today. Look at the issues around fair distriution of Covid vaccine – despite the social and economic drivers for global availibility. Why would AI suddenly be distributed more fairly?
17:29:08 From Georgios Raikos to Everyone : Good point @Alex Monaghan (sadly)…
17:29:26 From Karen Silverman to Everyone : Great! Feel free to reach out and I can help coordinate Karen.silverman@cantellusgroup.com 17:29:39 From Peter Scott to Everyone : AI may well meet the Paris targets if it doesn’t consume more carbon than it saves in the process. But I’m not sure that the Paris targets will be enough.
17:29:56 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : A fantastic historical and philosophical and global perspective – of AI – to help us understand what has happened in the past to help us understand what AI will be like in 2030! Great talk @Valerie
17:30:20 From Georgios Raikos to Everyone : I agree @Vibhav Mithal what do you propose?
17:31:12 From karen rea to Everyone : Agree Vibhav. So on point.
17:31:31 From Georgios Raikos to Everyone : Perfect content by Valerie Morignat!!! will there by Q&A?
17:31:33 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : @Georgio – I think 2030 has multiple facets – (a) Ethical AI – Will that be for stakeholders and not shareholders; (b) Will protection of personal data be a global norm? (c) Will there be regulation for AI – hard law as opposed to soft law;
17:32:26 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : @Georgio – You are more than free to ask questions.
17:32:27 From karen rea to Everyone : Karen Silverman…I have 2 jabs and the UK Give MAY be soon letting us “two-jabs” fly anywhere on the UK’s green or amber lists….so, who knows?!
17:32:32 From sara to Everyone : Hello everyone! Had trouble logging in but very happy to be here! Really looking forward to today!
17:32:34 From Enzo Ferrari to Everyone : Hi everyone!
17:32:35 From Enzo Ferrari to Everyone : https://www.linkedin.com/in/enzo-ferrari/
17:32:51 From Georgios Raikos to Everyone : @Vibhav – that’s my point on “distributed” benefit of AI application…
17:33:00 From karen rea to Everyone : Govt, not Givt!
17:33:14 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : https://www.linkedin.com/in/renatosantanna (There is my newsletter that people may find interesting!)
17:33:34 From Alex Monaghan to Everyone : We are losing the distinction between data and digitised data. There has always been huge amounts of data – it just wasn;t digitised. The big problem for AI today is that much of the digitised data is not available in an accurate, labelled form. This leasd to a lot of the biases and other issues in AI.
17:34:02 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : There are may types of data, I call them voluntary and involuntary data
17:34:14 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : digital footprint
17:34:17 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : or digital trails
17:34:24 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : @Georgios – I agree. Distributed benefit is important! A global conversation – for local application.
17:34:30 From David Wood to Everyone : What’s significant about additional hardware being applied to improve AI isn’t just a matter of quantity. The new types of chips that are being created are likely to introduce new disruptions. Hence we are going from CPUs to GPUs to TPUs and IPUs and may soon see additional breakthroughs from algorithms running on QPUs
17:35:07 From Lucky to Everyone : Hi everyone, happy to meet you all. Kiine5580@gmail.com – for all a global paralegal services provider( UAE, USA &UK)
17:35:12 From Sonika Bajpeyee to Everyone : Are these investments into AI in the field of impact investment, say towards attainment of SDGs, or for purely commercially marketable products? I would be surprised if they are for the former.
17:35:36 From Lucky to Everyone : Hi everyone, happy to meet you all. Kiine5580@gmail.com – for all global paralegal services provider( UAE, USA &UK)
17:36:01 From Hanno Eigenbrod to Everyone : How can u integrate mindfulness and ai
17:36:09 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Looking forward to Richard’s Ai bot transcribing this session! So many nuggets here!
17:36:42 From Alex Monaghan to Everyone : Interesting that we are listening to such an optimistic view of what AI can do and how it will improve, but watching a video where the software can’t even identify the outline of a black figure as it moves slight;y and slowly. How smart is that?
17:36:56 From Hanno Eigenbrod to Everyone : Can AI take on compassion
17:37:08 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : Thank you @David Wood for the point of computing and how that may bring disruptions.
17:37:14 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : @Alex, valid point – I often think that with many things as of late
17:37:19 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : (“Ai” things)
17:37:27 From David Wood to Everyone : @Alex – Two approaches to the problem you mention of data that is inaccurately labelled (which can result in mis-trained neural networks):
1.) One AI generates lots of synthetic data and accurately labels it, before passing it to the neural network;
2.) One AI specialises in fixing the mislabelling, before (again) handing the data over to another algorithm.
17:37:29 From Mustapha to Everyone : @Hanno through education of human centered design of AI as early as possible .
17:37:38 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Everyone : Here’s the LinkedIn URL again to let this community know that you are open to connect:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/mkai_ai-futureofai-aiethics-activity-6813858329413107713-CEXV
Just say hello in a comment to connect with likeminded people
All speakers are there to follow/connect too
17:37:42 From Piyush Sharma to Everyone : AI can play a huge role in solving some of the long-troubling questions related to multiple types of disabilities and the related challenges.
17:38:23 From Hanno Eigenbrod to Everyone : Integration of Ai into neurodiversity
17:38:25 From Peter Scott to Everyone : @Hanno it can already fake compassion in some contexts. We will more and more be forced to decide where the boundaries are.
17:38:42 From Hanno Eigenbrod to Everyone : Compassion cannot be faked
17:39:15 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : I see Ai a bit like nuclear power: very useful / power and/or very destructive a the same time.
That means humanity as users of it needs to be mindful of both the risks and rewards.
17:39:23 From Mustapha to Everyone : Who owns intelligence?
17:39:32 From Georgios Raikos to Everyone : People can judge ethics. Turing machines can’t? Or will they? (see bicentennial man movie…)
17:39:39 From Karen Silverman to Everyone : Agreed @Markus!
17:39:42 From karen rea to Everyone : Hearing yesterday on the APPG session from Prof Virginia Dignum , that all data is synthetic (human created and thus riddled with bias) and what is required is diligence at the research and development stages of the algorithms to prevent “bad” AI and “bad” AI use, was perhaps the crux and the starting point…? Engineers, she said, cannot, by training, achieve this when acting within their present (today) remits.
17:39:44 From Sonika Bajpeyee to Everyone : @Markus – I second you!
17:39:48 From Alex Monaghan to Everyone : @Piyush yes it can, it already can – students are building home-made AI which does this – but there is no commercial drive to do this. No financial return, and no way of funding AI through social return as yet.
17:39:49 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : AI and SDGs – is a good intersection to explore. Thanks @Sonika.
@ Piyush – AI has a lot of potential for disabilities. We will have to look at ethical aspects as well.
17:39:50 From David Wood to Everyone : @Hanno re “Can AI take on compassion” – take a look at the field of Affective Computing. An excellent book on this is “Girl Decoded”, the autobiography of Rana el Kaliouby, co-founder of Affectiva
17:39:51 From Hanno Eigenbrod to Everyone : Intelligence has no owner in the future
17:40:04 From Hanno Eigenbrod to Everyone : It is a all human project
17:40:25 From Karen Silverman to Everyone : And KRea and anyone with 2 jabs is welcome to join us 🙂
17:40:51 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : As a (optimistic) risk guy, I am focussed on the risks – and try to remediate them and/or turn them into upside risks (= opportunities). BUT, it does require human common sense, which isn’t that common!
17:41:07 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : Once I suggested a Genova convention to avoid weaponization of AI in Quora!
17:41:35 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : @Markus – The word ‘tangible equity’, spoken of by Valerie is a great way to address your concern. Your point is a very valid one.
17:42:18 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : I am trying to develop a UN HR Ai convention – or at least a recommendation at UN level aimed both at 1) the 3 laws of Ai / Robotics and 2) Humans ethically deploying #1
17:42:39 From Sonika Bajpeyee to Everyone : I think misuse of AI by government is far worse than the misuse by companies – the latter can be regulated. Checking misuse by the sovereign poses a real risk, especially when the government is a powerful one.
17:42:50 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : the problem is to not let a automated machine decides without a human in the decision loop regarding Human lifes and and situations where risks are involved
17:42:50 From Alex Monaghan to Everyone : Natural language processing through ML is already failing to progress. There is just no intelligence, no understanding, in this approach – and NLP can’t progress without these.
17:42:57 From Shreya Gupta to Everyone : @Markus that sounds awesome because it is very needed
17:43:56 From David Wood to Everyone : @Sonika – Today’s corporations are (just about) still under the control of national governments. But as corporations gain more power, they can become able to ignore requests from politician
17:44:33 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : about 50% of the futurist predictions fail to come to happen
17:44:43 From Alex Monaghan to Everyone : I predict another plateau – a dip – when people realise that ML is just big data and statistics, maybe there will be some disasters or not, but accuracy and explainability and flexibility will plateau.
17:44:47 From karen rea to Everyone : @renatosantanna Humans in the loop propagate bias, no?
17:44:52 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : I might sound like a broken record, but still think that “my” Universal Conduct risk paradigm – ratified by the UN in Nov 2017 – can contribute to this discussion: https://unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/trade/wp6/documents/2017/GRMF2F/2017_02_22_1400_Krebsz_UCRP_-_Draft_version_22_Feb_2017.pdf
17:44:56 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : but they are a warning of possible futures
17:44:59 From Gerry Copitch to Everyone : Automation isn’t intelligent…..automation is repetitively performing the same task with the same outcome
17:45:03 From Shreya Gupta to Everyone : @Alex I agree. As much as I like being optimistic and agree with Valerie we have all heard about AI Winters so can we be this optimistic?
17:45:17 From Sonika Bajpeyee to Everyone : Valid point. Corporate heavyweights, espp the tech ones, are a powerful lobby! Thanks @David
17:45:59 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : @karen rea the automation of AI automate cognitive Bias
17:46:30 From David Wood to Everyone : @Alex – There may be a temporary setback, but ML already has a number of initiatives to address the issues you mention. For example Probabilistic Programming (the feature of the recent CogX talk by Prof Stuart Russell).
17:46:34 From Alex Monaghan to Everyone : We saw this plateau effect during the pandemic – suddenly all the pre-pandemic data no longer predicted commerce, traffic, energy use and many pther things. But you can’t just collect 20 years of new data overnight – you have to wait 20 years – and we will never have such stable data again as we had before the pandemic. This is a game-changer for ML – and not in a good way!
17:46:36 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Hey @Jaisal, lovely to seeing you!
17:46:44 From karen rea to Everyone : Thank you, @karensilverman! See you by the bridge!
17:46:45 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Everyone : SHe
17:46:47 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : also a diverse group of Humans can analyse from different perspectives
17:46:55 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Everyone : Jaisal is the time police 🙂
17:47:13 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Time police or time lord?
17:47:24 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Everyone : Hehe
17:47:27 From Alex Monaghan to Everyone : @richard she smiles while she does it though!
17:47:29 From Jaisal Surana to Everyone : yes I am
17:47:37 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Everyone : She does indeed 🙂
17:47:52 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Everyone : Valerie is an amazing speaker! Wow
17:48:15 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Yes, very much enjoying this!!!
17:48:27 From karen rea to Everyone : @renatosantanna Groundhog Day?
17:48:38 From Bruce Hoffman to Everyone : Yes, incredible. So many concept. I need a transcript
17:48:41 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : Outstanding talk !!!
17:48:46 From Sonika Bajpeyee to Everyone : Absolutely. Very thought-provoking talk! Enjoying every bit of it!
17:48:59 From Tanmay Agrawal to Everyone : Totally enjoyable as well as engaging session
17:49:00 From karen rea to Everyone : Valerie has gills….she doesn’t appear to take a breath!
17:49:05 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : @Karen Reaa what is Groundhog Day?
17:49:07 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Whoop whoop – I can stay all day long in bed (and the Ai bot will do all my work!) Cannot wait!!!
17:49:20 From David Wood to Everyone : @Renato – Re “about 50% of the futurist predictions fail to come to happen” – that’s why it’s important to improve our skills in foresight 🙂
My book “Vital Foresight” looks at numerous examples of predictions that failed, and others which succeeded, to draw out lessons for better forecasting.
17:49:32 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : I work with foresight
17:49:33 From Alex Monaghan to Everyone : Very few Sci-Fi visions of the future have taken such an optimistic view of AI filtering our interactions – just saying!
17:49:38 From Gerry Copitch to Everyone : Growl Jaisal?
17:50:02 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Hindsight is also useful at times!
17:50:03 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : I’m also writing a Future of Work book
17:50:17 From Hanno Eigenbrod to Everyone : My Amazon robot hoover always wants to kill my Apple HomePod minis. How can we prevent the infighting
17:50:53 From Alex Monaghan to Everyone : Haha! Wait til they have nano=weapons!
17:50:59 From Piyush Sharma to Everyone : Really insightful talk @Valerie
17:51:05 From Bruce Hoffman to Everyone : I want to create one of those medical devices
17:51:07 From Shreya Gupta to Everyone : Valerie is really expressive using her hands and facial expressions. She has amazing speaking skills
17:51:15 From David Wood to Everyone : There are lots of books on the future of work. In this crowded field, the one I pick as the very best is by Daniel Susskind, “A World Without Work: Technology, Automation, and How We Should Respond” https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51300408-a-world-without-work
17:51:23 From Alexandra to Everyone : Yes wonderful speaker!
17:51:35 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : I am enjoying having no slides and listening to Valerie telling the story.
17:51:39 From karen rea to Everyone : @renatosantanna It is a film where the hero (Bill Murray) is stuck in waking up each day to exactly the same set of events as the day before…a dystopian-type film really. Epitomises the “vicious cycle” or “circle”
17:51:56 From Gerry Copitch to Everyone : Do you have a tazer Jaisal???
17:52:01 From Alex Monaghan to Everyone : Waiting for the day that charities like Smile and cataract removal no longer need massive private funding – but I’m not holding my breath!
17:52:02 From kritika sharma to Everyone : Absolutely @Richard Forster So many great points to be noted !! Brilliant Session
17:52:26 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : If you haven’t watched/seen “Superhumans” yet, please watch it!!!
17:52:39 From Alex Monaghan to Everyone : One Direction?! Something has definitely gone wrong 🙂
17:52:41 From Richard B to Everyone : I believe that work will continue to be redefined with the evolution of AI, just as work has been redefined through history
17:53:19 From Richard B to Everyone : My grandmother worked in a cotton mill in 1908 – I don’t think she would have envisioned a ‘social media influencer’ as a career…..
17:53:21 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : I could listen 90mins to Valerie!
17:53:25 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Everyone : I know!
17:53:27 From Errol Finkelstein to Everyone : This point of the AI effect on COST and PRICING is not to be under estimated. Radical reduction in the cost of healthcare, education, housing (think 3D printing), food production etc etc surely leads potentially to massive upliftment of all humans on this planet (and beyond). Free or near free healthcare, food, housing for all.
17:53:30 From David Wood to Everyone : @Richard B – There’s a good case that “this time is different” – which Daniel Susskind explains well in his book that I mentioned earlier
17:53:32 From Alexandra to Everyone : Me too!
17:53:39 From Carolina to Everyone : I feel like we need another AI winter to stop and think how we go forwards….otherwise we are in an inertia that is difficult to redirect…
17:53:40 From Sonika Bajpeyee to Everyone : We don’t want her to stop talking 🙁
17:53:47 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Everyone : Wonderful!!!
17:53:50 From Alex Monaghan to Everyone : … and breathe!
17:53:51 From Sonika Bajpeyee to Everyone : Excellent talk, Valerie!
17:53:52 From Richard B to Everyone : so while what we call work today may be replaced in some form with AI, we will create new forms of work that cannot be covered with AI
17:53:55 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Breathless & breathtaking!
17:53:56 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Everyone : Valerie is brilliant
17:53:58 From Richard B to Everyone : Excellent Valerie
17:54:06 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : OUTSTANDING TALK!
17:54:06 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Very good, thank you @Valerie
17:54:07 From Tanmay Agrawal to Everyone : AMAZING !!
17:54:10 From karen rea to Everyone : I think Valerie is the embodiment of the superiority of humans over robots. Bravo! Fantastic.
17:54:10 From Carolina to Everyone : Thank you so much Valerie
17:54:14 From Aleksandra Hadzic to Everyone : Thank you Valerie! This was breathtaking!
17:54:20 From delphine nyaboke to Everyone : amazing presentation Doc.!!
17:54:21 From Gerry Copitch to Everyone : Awesome Valerie!
17:54:23 From Alannah to Everyone : That was incredible thankyou Valerie, not a stutter and some incredible content!
17:54:23 From Karen Silverman to Everyone : Fantastic!
17:54:27 From Dr. Lovedays Egbedion to Everyone : Wow…. Valerie…. just too awesome.
17:54:33 From Tara McKeown to Everyone : That was phenomenal Valerie! Thank you!
17:54:34 From Mustapha to Everyone : Amazing energy , thank you @Valerie
17:54:41 From Odilia Coi to Everyone : thank you for this talk Valerie, it was amazing!
17:54:41 From sonika to Everyone : Thanks @valerie
17:54:53 From valerie morignat to Everyone : THANK YOU SO MUCH
17:55:11 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Yes, see you all on the other side!
17:55:22 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : @Errol Agree with you regarding the AI effect of cost and pricing, it will lead to decreasing costs but also complex AI models have increasing costs to train due huge amount of data that is necessary
17:55:34 From Alex Monaghan to Everyone : AI may indeed defeat death …
17:55:38 From Bruce Hoffman to Everyone : Amazing talk Valerie
17:55:53 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : https://t.me/joinchat/9_YAbNz6WQAyZWJk
17:55:58 From Carsten Holstein to Everyone : Thank you Valerie
17:56:11 From Amma Manso to Everyone : Thanks @Valerie! Great presentation!
17:56:21 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : Here is the Telegram link – https://t.me/joinchat/9_YAbNz6WQAyZWJk – for anyone to join the Open Discussion Group – and continue the conversation –
17:56:29 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : Please join us and continue the conversation
17:57:07 From Jaisal Surana to Everyone : Amazing talk Valerie how insightful
17:57:23 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : A Genova Convention to avoid the proliferation of AI arms race I still think would be a good idea
17:57:31 From Ana Montes to Everyone : Mind boggling. How can we insure that the best of humanity is included in AI?
17:57:44 From Tanmay Agrawal to Everyone : Sharing a lovely snapshot of the session that all might like to remember. Also posted on the master link shared by Vibhav. Do join on telegram too. Thanks!
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/tanmayagrawal_ai-artificialintelligence-futureofai-activity-6813869926760247296–T9a
17:57:53 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : @Ana Ensuring the right and good data
17:58:05 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : and Data governance
17:58:37 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : Here is the MASTER LinkedIn Link for this event – https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6813858329413107713/ – Comment and Say hi here and connect to everyone in this event!
17:59:58 From sara to Everyone : Great thank you Vibhav!
18:01:16 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Lovely seeing a fellow member from the UN!
18:01:17 From Jaisal Surana to Everyone : @Markus lovely to seeing you too.
18:01:49 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : Here is the Telegram link again for anyone who wants to join the AI conversation – https://t.me/joinchat/9_YAbNz6WQAyZWJk
18:04:09 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Everyone : Pleas let me have your questions for Rose 🙂
18:04:39 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : my newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/vuca-world-insights-6742176168537022464/
18:06:00 From David Wood to Everyone : Q for Rose: In which countries do you see the most encouraging examples of sharing among the whole population the benefits of AI and other tech? What can we learn from these examples?
18:06:03 From Sonika Bajpeyee to Everyone : Some examples how AI can revolutionise the attainment of SDGs? Any SDG – alleviation of poverty, ensuring gender equality?
18:06:36 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : reduction of costs due greater efficiency
18:06:48 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Ai applications to improve mental health?
18:07:07 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : Games are great for that
18:07:11 From Jeff Quispe to Everyone : Greetings from Peru, this is a great event!
18:07:13 From Jeff Quispe to Everyone : https://www.linkedin.com/in/jefferson-quispe-pinares/
18:07:17 From Bruce Hoffman to Everyone : Yes Markus, I’ve see a few that want to improve mental health, but so many ethical concerns
18:07:19 From Sonika Bajpeyee to Everyone : Can AI enable real-time carbon emission trading?
18:07:35 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : with blockchain attached may be
18:07:41 From Carolina to Everyone : Rose, amazing insights….thank you so much
18:08:10 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : I am involved with a German / EU project on Ai / Neurotechnology looking at non-invasive brain stimulation (aimed at increasing mindfulness etc)
18:09:40 From David Wood to Everyone : @Markus – Have you read the recent book by Tan Le, “The NeuroGeneration: The New Era in Brain Enhancement That Is Revolutionizing the Way We Think, Work, and Heal” https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53097856-the-neurogeneration
18:10:48 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : @David, I haven’t, but thank you for the tip – I shall add it to my (long) reading list. Greatly appreciated.
18:11:53 From David Wood to Everyone : @Markus – I had about a dozen “OMG” reactions while reading Tan Le’s book. Her work seems very relevant to the project you describe.
18:11:56 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : That said, I’ve been experimenting with a few (non-invasive) devices incl. tCDS, Sensate and Oculus Go and am amazed how much these devices can influence / change brainwaves
18:12:09 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Great, will check it out!
18:12:45 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : Agree @Carolina. Rose’s views on AI are very important – to understand the impact of AI at a global level.
18:14:14 From Piyush Sharma to Everyone : @Rose, completely agree with you!
18:14:21 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Agree with Rose: Culture & resulting conduct (or the risk fo misconduct) is Very important!
18:15:57 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Here’s my recent presentation to the UN about Risk & Regulation of Ai: https://1drv.ms/b/s!AhGBDIJvMhy7guM09UzkN6NYyE3gAw?e=VelRHH
18:16:27 From Carolina to Everyone : OMG Rose…..totally! Anything I can do towards the realisation of a world where everyone has equal opportunities and equal rights I am in! 🙂
18:17:09 From David Wood to Everyone : @Rose – Re access to electricity: How do you assess the impact of solar power generators (either connected to national infrastructure, or operating locally)?
18:17:52 From Sonika Bajpeyee to Everyone : I agree AI has great potential for global south. Who do you feel is going to drive this change? Considering AI R&D must be expensive. Leading companies in developed parts of the word? Maybe as a CSR activity? Or the governments – political allies? Question from an AI-newbie!
18:22:34 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : AI enabled organizations (see an article I did about in Linkedin) are going to lead market niches
18:22:51 From Sonika Bajpeyee to Everyone : Okay.
18:23:06 From Harold Huggins to Everyone : What are examples of establishing a communications protocol of policy between federal and local municipalities?
18:23:51 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : @Sonika link: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ai-enabled-organizations-renato-azevedo-sant-anna/
18:24:16 From Errol Finkelstein to Everyone : Rose – in my humble African opinion – many Governments hold back from implementing obvious currently available AI – automation- online delivery systems to upgrade Citizen and Visitor Services as they find the tech intimidating … not popular to say but that is my experience. Almost all have feature phones with limited internet access (noting 2/3rds of Africans do not have internet access as we expect it). When they open up to the new approaches progress is Rapid and Radically good. AI itself will find or has found solutions or partial solutions now to these challenges. But he desire and political will often holds progress back. Wjat thoughts Rose?
18:24:25 From Mustapha to Everyone : @Rose agreed access is key ,innovation from the Global South is available, but mindset change to empower is also an equalizer
18:24:49 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Very much enjoyed this, Rose – thank you!
18:25:29 From Ana Montes to Everyone : Positive deviants have been used to improve nutrition in the poorest of the poor, where are there those positive deviants in AI in the developing countries?
18:25:29 From Errol Finkelstein to Everyone : Indeed Rose thank you, great voice for the needs to uplift broadly in a realistic manner.
18:25:39 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : Thank you Rose for such a wonderful talk. The point of access – and AI – is one key point drive from your talk. Well captured @Jaisal. As always, your summaries are outstanding.
18:25:43 From Sonika Bajpeyee to Everyone : Thanks, Rose.
18:25:56 From Mustapha to Everyone : Thank you Rose !
18:25:58 From Alexandra to Everyone : Wonderful Rose, thank you!
18:26:19 From Jaisal Surana to Everyone : Thanks @Vibhav for your kind words. I know are tight on time
18:26:23 From Gus Reyes to Everyone : thank you Rose
18:27:17 From valerie morignat to Everyone : Rose is phenomenal.
18:27:52 From Ana Montes to Everyone : Thank Rose and Valerie, great talk. Access is so important!
18:27:55 From Jaisal Surana to Everyone : Amazing talk Rose how heart touching
18:28:16 From Richard B to Everyone : Great talk Rose!
18:28:46 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Lovely seeing Delphine here!
18:28:47 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : Great videos MKAI Champions !!!
18:29:01 From valerie morignat to Everyone : I love what Delphine said
18:29:09 From Sonika Bajpeyee to Everyone : Thanks @RenatoSentanna
18:29:27 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : I think the concept of Society 5.0 is algo good to talk about!
18:30:42 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : An article about Society 5.0: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/look-future-work-so-called-society-50-renato-azevedo-sant-anna/
18:30:47 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : It’ll be nice know when one is talking to a bot (or real person)!
18:31:04 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : Turing test?
18:31:35 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Transparency!
18:31:51 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : With GPT3 and similar algorithms it will be difficult to differntiate
18:32:41 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : With GPT 3 and similar algorithms it will be difficult to differentiate***
18:33:07 From valerie morignat to Everyone : Yes, imagine GPT4, 5, 6, 7…
18:33:23 From Jaisal Surana to Everyone : Wu Dao 2.0 how about the trillions of parat
18:33:30 From Jaisal Surana to Everyone : parameters*
18:33:39 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : You’re really, really spoiling us tonight, MKAI & @Richard!
18:34:33 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : yes, but it’s like Handall’ s law
18:35:30 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : exponential growth in parameters delivers marginal increase
18:35:38 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : after certain point
18:36:13 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : Like something like this: https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.com/pt-BR//pubs/archive/34400.pdf
18:36:36 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : Amdahl’s Law
18:36:45 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : wrong spelling***
18:38:31 From Tanmay Agrawal to Everyone : Automation
Health care
Legal Applications
Autonomous Vehicles
Stock markets
Smartphones
18:38:33 From karen rea to Everyone : Automated self-drive cars, legal decisions, politics, healthcare, retail.
18:38:35 From Gus Reyes to Everyone : AI embedded to Digital Marketing and Further Education
18:38:35 From Ana Montes to Everyone : health
18:38:35 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : IoT, Websearch, Amazon and other marketplaces, Medicine, Learning tech, FinTech, SaaS/PaaS
18:38:35 From Dr. Lovedays Egbedion to Everyone : Education
18:38:35 From Tshitso Tamane to Everyone : Energy Sector and Health Care
18:38:37 From Prasad Bhonde to Everyone : suggestions in the Amazon cart
18:38:37 From Richard B to Everyone : manufacturing, financial services, healthcare, recruitment, customer service,
18:38:37 From Carsten Holstein to Everyone : office automation
18:38:37 From stacyagobian to Everyone : Predictive maintenance asset management 5g network optimization aviation safety with air traffic control, OCR ai for crime fighting predicting risk in insurance predicting propensity
18:38:42 From Jaisal Surana to Everyone : Bank, Telecom
18:38:46 From PRADEEP Upadhyay to Everyone : insurance, healthcare, banking
18:38:57 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : FANGs
18:40:31 From Gus Reyes to Everyone : Inclusive innovation where regulations needs to be established
18:40:41 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Same reason why business should be responsible!
18:41:14 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : why not?
18:42:14 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : business should adopt an Data Governance Strategy in order to handle bias and noise in data, plus handling Consent Management from the user
18:42:31 From Gus Reyes to Everyone : unconscious biass
18:42:37 From Gus Reyes to Everyone : bias*
18:42:57 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Trust takes years to build – and seconds to destroy.
If your customers talk with their feet and you’re getting hit with regulatory fines, you would hopefully focus on building trustworthy businesses – and by extension trustworthy Ai.
Sadly, humans have not learned anything and make the same errors over and over again….
18:43:07 From Carolina to Everyone : Great points
18:43:29 From Richard B to Everyone : Businesses can’t establish data governance strategies for their transactional data, so I would not hold out much hope of them being able to do it for datasets for AI
18:43:32 From Carolina to Everyone : liability is definitely a challenge for new applications and their consequences
18:43:38 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : Correct! It’s way the incentives of behavior are important!
18:43:58 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : it’s why***
18:44:08 From David Wood to Everyone : @Renato re “exponential growth in parameters delivers marginal increase” – I’d be cautious about assuming a decrease in performance from an ongoing increase in the number of parameters in generative text systems such as GPT-3 and Wu Dao 2.0. The extent of the successes of these systems have been difficult to explain. Since we don’t really know what’s happening here, we cannot assume a reduction in performance any time soon.
18:44:09 From stacyagobian to Everyone : Some businesses are governing their data very well
18:44:48 From Richard B to Everyone : Business govern their data well until they get caught
18:44:49 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : @David, decreasing in the acceleration of % gain
18:45:17 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : it already happened in Deep Learning
18:45:49 From Henry Kafeman to Everyone : Are we guilty of having unrealistic expectation/requirements of AI? Most humans are known to be not very good at understanding and weighing up risks. So if AI is considerably better than humans at avoiding harm, minimising bias, then is that good enough and how is that measured, agreed, communicated, etc.?
18:45:52 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : Just see ImageNet dataset for image recognition
18:46:09 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : I’ve recently asked Ai (more specifically, 4 different OpenAi engines) “what is artificial intelligence”. The results were surprising!
18:46:12 From David Wood to Everyone : @Renato – Again, we don’t know for sure. Simple enhancements to the model could enable another big jump in performance (a bit like tweaking the tanh and ReLu functions)
18:46:22 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : The LinkedIn Master link – for the post to share your thoughts and connect with each other for this event – https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6813858329413107713/
18:46:33 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : levels of performance are difficult to enhance after some level without enhance too much the costs
18:46:39 From Richard B to Everyone : Good point @Henry – AI would never take out insurance at the car rental desk….
18:47:11 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : The Telegram – link – for you to join the AI conversation and continue the discussions – https://t.me/joinchat/9_YAbNz6WQAyZWJk
18:47:15 From valerie morignat to Everyone : Bias is inherently human. Pre-AI classification systems were already biased because their objectives were biased. Education, mindset shift, awareness will help fight algorithmic bias.
18:47:58 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : Just see the Ghz in chips, we are stuck in the same Ghz since year 2000. The first chips of Terahertz are going to appear just now for Telecom ASICs
18:48:13 From David Wood to Everyone : @renato – Have you looked at the claims that are being made for the discipline of Probabilistic Programming for enabling neural networks to produce results much more efficiently?
18:48:40 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : @David the point is there are physical limits
18:48:51 From Tanmay Agrawal to Everyone : Dear Timi,
Would love to hear much from your statement about Regulation is a dual edged sward. I don’t see any substantial issues arising after there are Regulations for AI. Thanks
18:49:10 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : Timi – is covering the legal landscape and the grey areas of AI regulation – very well.
18:49:19 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : Fantastic talk!
18:49:21 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : one must balance Economics of improvement with tech development
18:49:32 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Would not pin my hopes on “regulation” and certainly not national regulation.
For Ai, the core issues need to be addressed from the top to protect humanity (and human rights / life) – the UN is best placed for that (or so I hope).
18:49:50 From Carolina to Everyone : @Vibhav Totally! Lots of food for thought!
18:50:31 From Richard B to Everyone : regulation is indeed a 2-edged sword. Legislation is almost always used to protect some stakeholder interest, often one with nationalistic undertones. Regulation will not solve these problems, it can be part of the solution
18:51:09 From David Wood to Everyone : @Markus – But perhaps the different practical experiences of regulating AI at the national level will provide useful examples for global bodies like the UN to build on and extend
18:51:48 From Peter Scott to Everyone : I discussed the issues of ownership for AI-created IP with law prof Ryan Abbott a couple of episodes ago on my podcast. (aiandyou.net). Amazing the ideas lawyers can come up with in that area.
18:51:53 From Richard B to Everyone : I agree a governance framework is important, but I struggle with establishing a consistency of view of ‘rights’
18:52:01 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : @David, they certainly do – and if you look at my slide deck shared further up, I’ve referenced some of those. They will inform from a “thematics” perspective for sure.
18:52:17 From Richard B to Everyone : nation states have very strong opinions on what rights they would like their citizens to have and not have….
18:52:19 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : Regulation is necessary and important for the future of AI. It is an important part of the solution. Regulation will provide clarity in terms of how to approach issues – as AI evolves. There are nuances present in it.
18:52:43 From David Wood to Everyone : Robert Glaser of Real Networks gave a wonderful talk at CogX last week about the vital role that regulation played in enabling and accelerating the motor car industry. He used this as an example to argue for intelligent regulation of face recognition technology
18:53:08 From Peter Scott to Everyone : @Vibhav What regulation do you think would be (a) useful and (b) enforceable?
18:53:10 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : I am concerned about “fundamental rights” as per human rights convention. In the context of Ai, mostly about survival of humanity and not being injured by Ai, both physically and mentally.
18:53:21 From Richard B to Everyone : But isn’t there still a huge variation in automobile standards around the world?
18:53:29 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Everything else needs to be done at national level
18:53:53 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : There is a huge variation of many standards around the world, yes absolutely
18:54:05 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Despite ISO etc
18:54:06 From Richard B to Everyone : Standards can become ubiquitous when there is a common motivation to comply
18:54:09 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : AI and IP – is an area – that fits within the larger debate of issues of AI and Law – It is tied to legal personality and where AI can get legal personality. it is also – connected to how far AI will evolve. @Peter Scott.
18:54:27 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Regs can become that motivation to comply
18:54:34 From Prasad Bhonde to Everyone : Are there any means to control AI-enabled systems apart from the laws?
18:54:34 From Richard B to Everyone : global standards have been adopted in areas where it promotes scale efficiencies and greater corporate profits
18:54:35 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : As can the desire for “survival”
18:54:43 From David Wood to Everyone : An example of international regulations that have been at least partially useful: the monitoring of chemical weapons capabilities.
18:54:50 From Carsten Holstein to Everyone : Thank You Timi
18:54:52 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Thank you @Timi, love your passion about this topic!
18:55:06 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Yes, agree @David
18:55:16 From Chinwe Odimegwu to Everyone : Thanks you Barr Timi
18:55:16 From delphine nyaboke to Everyone : this is just marvelous, marvelous Timi
18:55:22 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : Fantastic talk @Timi !
18:55:22 From Richard B to Everyone : I agree, partially successful, where regulation is part of the answer, but not the complete answer
18:55:26 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Everyone : Thank you Timi!
18:55:42 From Richard B to Everyone : Thank you Timi – many of your comments resonate strongly with me
18:56:02 From Mustapha to Everyone : @Timi 100% ! indeed how do we empower ourselves to be creators and not just consumers of AI
18:56:11 From Odilia Coi to Everyone : Thank you so much Timi
18:56:28 From valerie morignat to Everyone : Thank you Timi! Great points!
18:56:40 From Carolina to Everyone : Great talk Timi! Thank you!
18:56:44 From Carolyn Fletcher to Everyone : Excellent summing up Jaisal. Thank you.
18:56:51 From David Wood to Everyone : Consider also regulation of health and safety of the food production industry. As triggered by the book “The Jungle” by Upton Sinclair
18:56:51 From valerie morignat to Everyone : Jaisal is an amazing moderator
18:56:54 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Well done @Jaisal time police!
18:57:00 From Jaisal Surana to Everyone : thanks @Carolyn
18:57:11 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : @Valerie – Jaisal is the best! Yes. Agree.
18:57:14 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Thank you @Vibhav for sharing the other MKAI channels
18:57:15 From Odilia Coi to Everyone : @jaisal great moderator as usual!!
18:57:15 From Debby Kruzic to Everyone : Thank you very much, everyone. So much food for thought
18:57:18 From Prasad Bhonde to Everyone : thanks @timi
18:57:18 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Thank you to all speakers!
18:57:25 From Jaisal Surana to Everyone : Thanks @Valerie it means a lot to me coming from you.
18:57:27 From Timi Olagunju to Everyone : Thank you. Let’s connect on @timithelaw (Twitter) and LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/timi-olagunju-85534955
18:57:30 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : And thank you to @Richard
18:57:40 From Alexandra to Everyone : Key issues raised, thank you Timi!
18:57:44 From Gerry Copitch to Everyone : Another wonderful ‘Family MKAI’ event! Huge THANKS everyone and especially to Jaisal and Richard.
18:57:45 From Diego Cammarano to Everyone : Thank you everyone for your insightful presentations and for organising another great session. Have a nice weekend
18:58:00 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : Great event!
18:58:13 From Ana Montes to Everyone : Trust is crucial. Great talk. Regulations have been skewed by those in power how can we ensure that does not happen so there can be equity?
18:58:35 From Henry Kafeman to Everyone : @MKAI team – Wow lots packed in!
18:59:27 From Jaisal Surana to Everyone : Amazing event
18:59:44 From Sonika Bajpeyee to Everyone : Excellent session. Particularly enjoyed Valerie’s talk!
18:59:46 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : @Ana I would say case by case is the way to tackle this issue!
19:00:05 From Peter Scott to Everyone : Got to run – thank you everyone!!!
19:00:22 From Piyush Sharma to Everyone : Thanks everyone!
19:00:30 From Tanmay Agrawal to Everyone : Thanks everyone..
Stay connected. https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6813869926760247296/
19:00:34 From Anita Jovic to Everyone : Hi all great event. Feel free to add me https://www.linkedin.com/in/anita-jovic/ 🙂 Thanks to Karen and Aleksandra for the invite.
19:00:51 From Carolina to Everyone : Thank you so much everyone! Thank you MKAI!
19:00:53 From Jitendra Shakya to Everyone : Thanks everyone it’s fantastic as always
19:00:54 From David Wood to Everyone : @Ana – your question is key, “Regulations have been skewed by those in power how can we ensure that does not happen so there can be equity?” We could spend a long time answering that. In short, we need a powerful state, in order to steer and regulate powerful corporations. AND, vitally, we need a powerful society too – free press, independent courts, viable opposition parties, protected democracy etc – to steer and regulate the state.
19:01:04 From Karen Beraldo to Everyone : Anita! Wonderful to see you here!
19:01:13 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : I am looking forward to your next Ai poem, @Ana!
19:01:28 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : The telegram link once again – https://t.me/joinchat/9_YAbNz6WQAyZWJk
19:01:54 From Mustapha to Everyone : Great Insights , Great People , congrats MKAI on the event !
19:02:33 From Gerry Copitch to Everyone : We should get sponsored 🙂
19:03:04 From valerie morignat to Everyone : Thank you everyone for the very nice messages. Feel free to connect with me on LinkedIn.
19:03:19 From Dwight Nelson to Everyone : I’m way out in Trinidad. 🙂
19:03:23 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : Thank you @Valerie!
19:04:13 From Juliet T. Eze to Everyone : Good to meet you all
19:05:22 From Gus Reyes to Everyone : Looking forward to hearing this part of the session.
19:06:03 From Carsten Holstein to Everyone : http://www.churchill-society-london.org.uk/WSCHague.html
19:06:09 From Neeraj Satpall to Everyone : I missed the earlier sessions due to some other commitments, it is indeed such a pleasure to be here for this one
19:07:34 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : Bye everyone!
19:08:11 From Deborah Power to Everyone : I also missed the previous session but excited to be here.
19:08:21 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Everyone : Welcome Deborah
19:08:37 From Simon Pillinger to Everyone : https://amberhawk.typepad.com/files/uk-gdpr-adequacy-decision—june2021.pdf
19:08:44 From Simon Pillinger to Everyone : leaked here
19:10:00 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : https://www.linkedin.com/in/mkrebsz/
Also, please visit & follow: http://www.human-ai.institute/
19:10:37 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Everyone : Thanks Simon
19:19:31 From sara to Everyone : I’m going to have to leave, unfortunately. Great forum and speakers! Thank you everyone. Looking forward to connecting with all of you more in depth.
19:19:41 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Everyone : Thanks Sara
19:19:55 From Gus Reyes to Everyone : I am loving this session
19:20:24 From Gus Reyes to Everyone : Did you all see Sam Jones from Gener8 ads at the dragon dens?
19:20:43 From Gus Reyes to Everyone : They are doing an amazing job about Data Protection
19:20:50 From Simon Pillinger to Everyone : Yes, Brave has been doing this for a wile.
19:20:50 From Richard B to Everyone : I have another call to move on to. Another great session, look forward to keeping in touch and the next session
19:20:56 From Henry Kafeman to Everyone : @Marie I agree. Can we not have a handful of standard settings ()e.g. for different types of organisations/data) that are used in all instances. It is simply not possible to read/understand and set all tick boxes which vary by each usage. I found web site that had literally hundreds of separate tick boxes for privacy settings with no way of setting “all off” only “all on” or “agree to set selections”!
19:21:25 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : There is also in LGPD the “legitimate interest”
19:22:13 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : I am a fan of Brave. I was somewhat disappointed reading this: http://ebin.city/%7Ewerwolf/posts/brave-is-shit/
19:22:17 From Gus Reyes to Everyone : start using Gener8 to control your Data
19:22:40 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : And yes, Gener8te at Dragon’s Dens was amazing!
19:23:08 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : I am working with YamGo on improving this globally
19:23:35 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : https://yamgo.com/
19:24:10 From Timi Olagunju to Everyone : Awesome conversation
19:24:56 From Gus Reyes to Everyone : I am loving this. You are meeting all my expectations.
19:25:53 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : As German in the UK, very much agree with Marie. And yes, I’ve opted out of NHS Digital!!!
19:26:04 From Gus Reyes to Everyone : Would it be recorded? I would like to share this amazing conversation with my apprentices
19:26:46 From Gus Reyes to Everyone : I moved to NHS Digital a few months ago, I felt the same.
19:27:06 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Same when HMRC calls me “customer” – I am not, I have no choice. I am forced to using their “dis-service”!!!
19:27:36 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : And yes, Simon is very right. I am a second class citizen in the UK (as European). That is despite having “settled status”.
19:27:46 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : data sovereignty
19:27:55 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : at individual and country levels
19:28:15 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : “Slavery”?
19:28:20 From Gerry Copitch to Everyone : Excellent point Simon!
19:28:24 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Data enslavement?
19:28:50 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : your data is yours
19:29:04 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Apols, but am very cynical when it comes to the UK – too many battle scars!!!
19:29:27 From Gus Reyes to Everyone : Guinea pigs more or less
19:29:51 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Politicians very rarely read stuff.
They’re much better at “making stuff up”!
19:32:57 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : The model of Open Banking of handling data is interesting!
19:33:12 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : In Brazil we copy UK in that!
19:33:37 From Jaisal Surana to Everyone : Reusing and improvements is important
19:33:39 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : But that’s what’s going to happen, Carsten
19:35:06 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : (British) answer: “Computer says ‘No’!”
19:37:54 From karen rea to Everyone : Politicians very rarely read stuff.
They’re much better at “making stuff up”! #markuskrebsz Agree. The UK TV programme “Yes Minister” is still valid nowadays!
19:38:42 From Juliet T. Eze to Everyone : It was nice connecting with you all.
19:38:44 From Juliet T. Eze to Everyone : Thanks
19:38:48 From Juliet T. Eze to Everyone : Bye
19:39:16 From Neeraj Satpall to Everyone : Isn’t it important to establish a culture of data minimisation?
Is it really necessary for organisation to store a large amount of personal data for an extended period?
19:39:26 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Thanks @Karen – I painfully know: I’ve spent far too much time over the last >5 years on various initiatives / APPGs in UK Parliament.
19:42:32 From Gerry Copitch to Everyone : If Politicians ‘don’t read things’ and ‘make stuff up’ does it not then follow that AI would ultimately make better decisions?
19:42:53 From Ashik Ravindran to Everyone : Team, Its my first event with MKAI today. Really enjoying the positive energy and friendly atmosphere here. Looking forward for the upcoming MKAI sessions as well!
19:43:01 From renatosantanna@gmail.com to Everyone : @Neeraj Agree, data minimisation is a good practice!
19:43:12 From Jaisal Surana to Everyone : Sorry but sometimes we cannot escape ticking I agree even for a piece of news.
19:44:27 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : @Ashik – Great to hear. If you want to continue the AI conversation – we have a Telegram chat. You can join, if you have not already, – here – https://t.me/joinchat/9_YAbNz6WQAyZWJk.
19:45:06 From Ashik Ravindran to Everyone : Thanks, I have joined already
19:45:15 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : @Gerry, there’s a good chance that Ai would make better (informed) decisions than Ai, yes!
19:45:54 From Henry Kafeman to Everyone : Sorry need to go now – Will listen in to recording of the rest of the discussions. Have a good evening all….
19:45:57 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Maybe we need some political RPA? (and retire politicians, quick!)
19:46:12 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Everyone : Take care Henry
19:46:51 From Neeraj Satpall to Everyone : That’s a good idea @Markus! It doesn’t even have to be Intelligent Automation? 19:47:00 From Henry Kafeman to Everyone : @Richard thanks – I have saved the Chat up to now, but would appreciate anything else of interest that gets typed…
19:47:33 From Jaisal Surana to Everyone : You are so @Richard. They cant read it.
19:47:39 From Jaisal Surana to Everyone : right*
19:47:50 From Vibhav Mithal to Everyone : This is a fantastic session – and listening to it again will help you learn more.
19:49:23 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : Yes, agree, very good – thank you everyone!
19:56:36 From Neeraj Satpall to Everyone : The problem is a lot of companies have the mentality – Let’s store as much as possible, maybe we can use it one day!
19:57:01 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Everyone : Facebook went to court to keep the data
19:58:47 From Ana Montes to Everyone : Climate change burden can not be put primarily on the shoulders on the consumer, in this same manner you can’t the burden in this issue to individual, the largest responsibility lies on those in power.
20:02:07 From Markus Krebsz to Everyone : I have to drop – thank you very much everyone! Very good session, again. And @Richard, have a cool beer or two now!
20:02:39 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Everyone : Thanks Markus
20:03:12 From Gus Reyes to Everyone : what a session
20:03:33 From Neeraj Satpall to Everyone : Yet another stimulating session! Many thanks to all the speakers and participants 20:04:11 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Everyone : Let’s get the summaries and we’ll bring this to a close
20:04:29 From Richard Foster-Fletcher to Everyone : Very interesting and lively session. I’ve enjoyed hearing these speakers very much
20:04:30 From Alexandra to Everyone : Maybe once more cases start appearing of incidences where collected data is abused people will start caring, I think it’s hard to predict consequences before incidents occur
20:04:42 From Jaisal Surana to Everyone : data collection minimisation and ways to not recognise the individual is important
20:04:53 From Ana Montes to Everyone : Thanks for a great discussion.
20:05:10 From Alexandra to Everyone : Thanks so much!
20:05:16 From Audrey Ekuban to Everyone : Thanks. Very interesting.
20:05:19 From karen rea to Everyone : Thank you all. A fascinating set of talks and debates all for the last 4 to 5 hours!
20:05:34 From Gerry Copitch to Everyone : Riveting discussion. Thanks. Best, Virtual Gerry 🙂
20:05:41 From Ana Montes to Everyone : Scary that they are wanting to do away with human oversight.
20:06:38 From Jaisal Surana to Everyone : Thank you all speakers amazing and thought provoking what we want to do with our data to safegaaurd
20:09:48 From karen rea to Everyone : Puck the Collie says thank you too!
20:10:57 From Jaisal Surana to Everyone : thanks everyone. See you. Need to drop off. Amazing work @Vibhav and @Richard
20:11:06 From Ana Montes to Everyone : Thank you for all the wonderful input!